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THE Roodel- Wachisnran AND CANOEING GAZETTE. BIS #7 INSTANTANEOUS PHOTO. BY Wf RENE WEST COWES, LW AMonthly Journal of Model Yacht Construction, Fitting and Sailing; Canoeing News; Doings of the Clubs; Yachting Items; Correspondence; Sale and Exchange; &c. Vol. ILI.—No. 9. SEPTEMBER, All Communications must be addressed to ‘“‘Tur Epiror of The Afodel- Yachisman, 161 & 162, High Street, Hull.” THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN & CANOEING CAZETTE. Published on the Ist of each month, and can be had of any bookseller, or will be sent on application to the Pub- lishers, on the following terms :— Post-free to any part of the United Kingdom, Europe or America…… paid in advance…… 2/6 per annum 4d, or 1d. stamps may be sent in payment. N.B.—In sending for single copies, 234d. in stamps must be enclosed to cover postage. Tuomas GrassaM, 161 & 162, High Street. Lonpon: E. Marg.BoroucH & Co., 51, Old Bailey. Hutt: DVERTISEMENTS should reach this office not later than the 2Ist of the month, to secure insertion in the following issue. Rates on application. To Foreign Subseribers!—All subscriptions must be sent by Post Office Orders, payable to THos. GRASSAM, HuLL; or, if sent in Foreign Stamps, please send value in one or two stamps only, of high value.—P.O,O. made pay- able to ‘Fhe Model-Yachtsman” will net for the future be accepted. 1886. Price 2a., Post-free 2V4d. Tuts journal being published specially in the interests of model yachting, we ask every one who takes an interest in the sport to extend its circulation as much as possible. Gditerial Uotes. E have received from Mr. Duckworth, 22 St. John’s Road, Longsight, Manchester, two cabinet photos, one is the presentment of the new boathouse and staging, with a number of the members of the Manchester club, with their models in the water, steam and sailing; the other is a view of a large extent of the water-space, as a background to a good photo of a handsome to-ton clipper taken on the end of the staging. As these photos can be purchased for a very small sum, they will no doubt receive a large share of patronage. —0— In our last issue we remarked on the rumoured foundation of a M.Y.C. at Holyhead, and as we desire, as the servant of the sport, to be of use to all model-yachtsmen, we shall be glad to receive a communication from Holyhead as to whether the r30 THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN. clubis established, and such other information as will enable us to enter the club in our Register. There are other districts that want the encouragement afforded by the announcement of the formation of new clubs. Those who are forming or have lately formed clubs must make the matter known through our columns for the benefit of others, The sport thrives and the clubs multiply by these proceedings being ventilated. Four new clubs at one time is a great addition to chronicle, but we have sanguine hopes of more to follow. There are certain gentlemen in Bradford and Leeds that will not be satisfied until clubs are established in those towns, and a club is, we believe, in course of formation at Wakefield. In fact, it is as we predicted some time ago, model yachting may be made as entertaining a sport for —-Q— men residing on the seaboard have the advantage of the most nautical knowledge, it will be found that many of the inland towns have the advantage in suitable pieces of water for sailing models. I know little or nothing of model yachting (though I have made several models), but I think there is every facility for sailing models and forming a club here, shall be glad to hear your good advice in the matter, and shall be very pleased to help to form a club. I remain yours respectfully, MartnBoom. THE four new clubs, the particulars of which have been kindly supplied by a correspondent—/arrow-on Lyne, Maryport, Carnarvon and Menat Bridge. The two former have adopted the tonnage rule, the two latter the length rule. The dfenai Bridge club has secured as Commodore the Marquis of Anglesey, and Vice-Commodore the Earl of Uxbridge. With such noble patrons, the sport ought surely to flourish. PROMISED. Manchester M. Y. C. ‘*Main-Top” Editor Afodef ca) and Canoeing Gazette Lieut.-Col. Sterling, Vice-Commodore , , Serpentine M.Y.C . “Dundee Yachtsman” … H. Lear, Hon. Sec., Serpentine M.Y.C. Kingston M. WalCc Members “Rob Roy’ J. A. Webster, Springham ** Alpha” .. G. L., per Mr. Lear Sue — O-— We have pleasure in entering in our “Register” SUBSCRIPTIONS OS Bid ¢ in Port Glasgow will lose an enthusiastic follower and an energetic friend. We hope for the sake of the sport that another will spring up, where Mr. Murray stood, and will follow in his footsteps. Mr. Murray will not relinquish his interest in model yachting, but will carry it to the new district that he goes to. TROPHY. For conditions, see last month’s issue. —_—O—_ WE are sorry to hear of the removal of Mr. Alex, Murray, the late valuable Secretary of the Port Glasgow Club, from that town. Model Yachting CHALLENGE da do RG ley C, H. Beloe, Esq., ‘Com.,, L’pool M. Y.C. TF. H. Hodd, Esq., Hon.Bee do QO, Williams a0 Glasgow M.Y.C.. oof town. I have enquired of several. Townsmen and they have never heard of a model yacht club, either in er near Leeds, can you tell me why this is so. oon to see no mention of Leeds as a model yachting oO Dear Sir,—I have read the last few numbers of The Model- Yachtsman, and I am rather surprised GALATEA’S COMPETITOR. The first trial race between four of the crack American yachts arranged for the purpose of selecting the fastest vessel to compete against the British yacht Galatea for the Queen’s Cup, took place on Saturday, August 21st. The course selected was that of the New York Yacht Club—forty miles out and home. After a good race, Mayflower won, eleven minutes ahead of Puritan. COoOmococoCcCaAmDOOOSCS 43, Queen’s place, Camp Road, Leeds, Aug. 17th, 1886, The Editor, Model-Yachtsman. Nun chy, have pleasure in — we o00 Leeds, me Oriumetninn OO 0 respect to ~ WitH publishing the following letter, which we hope will have the effect of infusing sufficient spirit into the Leeds yachting men to enable them next year to throw down the gage to Manchester: A Recatra of the Menai Bridge Club, held in combination with some accompanying acquatic and other sports, was held on August 21st, but we have not been favored with the result. If the Secretary will communicate them we shall be glad to put them before our readers, as we wish to chronicle the doings of all the districts. = —Q— nau — increase as fast as we have done, but there is still plenty of room for growth. Does Gateshead serve all the Tyne? why should not Bradford and many of the inland towns participate ? saOQOrnr0 0000 0RMmOo” In the matter of new clubs, we cannot hope to inland towns as for seaports, and although gentle- Subscriptions received from the Boston M.Y.C. per the Hon. Sec. :—W. E. Lewin 2/6, C. Wright 2/6, J. T. Harwood 2/6, Capt. Burkitt 1/6, W. Thompson 6d. W. ‘Keightley ve, .. . .—-O TI] 0 THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN NEW CANOE BOOK. Watery Wanderings ‘mid Western Lochs’, a Practical Canoe Cruise, by T. H. Holding. Published by E. Marl- borough & Co., 51, Old Bailey, E.C. We can heartily recommend this book to the perusal of our readers ; it will prove interesting to old canoeists, young canoeists, and to those who have never seen a canoe. Four men who have not met before are brought together fora canoe cruise in the waters of Scotland, by arrangement of the author, some of them without the canoeing experience that many would think necessary for such an expedition. We have not the space to give examples of how the tale of their enjoyment and their vicissitudes is told, but it contains natura] humor without any laborious attempts to be funny ; clear and intelligible descrip- tion of scenery and events; and is most entertaining and instructive from beginning to end, We feel sure the book will have a good run of popularity, especially as the price (2/6) is one within the reach of all. 131 The second to arrive was the ‘Neptune’ 4o-tonner, owned and sailed by Mr. James Cant, Jun. The time taken by the winner was eight minutes. The committee are arranging further events for the remainder of the season. Victoria M.Y.C. (London)—No matches have been sailed during the month owing to the want of wind. Glasgow M, Y.C.—On Saturday, 7th August, this club at their pond Kelvinside, sailed the first match of the August programme, beginning with the first class 41-tons and up. There was a strong breeze of South West wind, but being broken pretty much OUR ILLUSTRATION PAGES. We present our readers this month with a handsome design for a 20-ton model, and also the outline sketches copied from the Mew York Sun of the four American crack yachts, the selected of which is to do battle against Galatea for the America Cup. There is also a sketch of Galatea to provide a full opportunity of comparison of the two by the trees, did not strike the pond very true for the style of race on card. However, the ro follow- ing yachts, hoisted fighting flags, to compete in a beam wind race for club’s prize, viz.: cutters, ‘Midge’ (42), ‘Sea King’ (43), ‘Greyhound’ (41), ‘Tanniwha’ (43), ‘Wendur’ (42) ‘Raven’ (52), ‘Effie’ opposite types, the main distinction being beam versus lead, (47), “Teenie’ (42), schooners ‘Clansman’ (45) and Doings of the @hrubs. ‘Annetta’ (56). A good many heats were sailed, some of which did not count asall the yachts came in outside the boundary flags, but on the whole Reports for publication must be legibly written, on one side of the paper ov/y, and forwarded to the EDITOR not later than the 20th of each insertion in the following issue, month, to ensure Contributions to this column are solicited from all the Model Yacht Clubs. M. V.C. London ).-Owing to the cleaningGeorge out of the Round Pond, no club matches have been sailed for three months, but on Friday Aug. 6th, two of the members met at the Serpentine, at ga.m. to sail a private match. ‘Psyche’ cut, Mr. Allen, ‘Daisy’ cut. Mr. Tylee, they were both 2ft. 3in, overall, and 2ft. on l.w.l., and some very even sailing was the result, sometimes only 4 or 5 secs. dividing the two boats. After nearly two hours sailing the result was ‘Daisy’ 12, ‘Psyche’ 2. The ‘Daisy’ is a new boat, the ‘Psyche’ nearly two years old.—The ‘Daisy’ and ‘Circe’ (Mr, Allen) sailed fora short time on the 7th, ‘Circe’ proving the winner. On the gth, ‘Circe’ and ‘Daisy’ sailed another match, which was cut short by the rain. There was some close racing while it lasted. Result :—‘Daisy’ 5, ‘Circe’ 1. All these matches were on the inch, Dundee M.Y.C.—On Saturday Aug. 7th, the final race for the picture presented to the club by Mr. Liddle, King’s Road, took place on the pond at Stobsmuir. The competing yachts represented all classes from 5-tons to 50-tons, being the winners in the preliminary heats. Seven yachts competed. A good start was effected at 3-30, the smaller craft having the windward position. After an exciting race the winner was declared to be the ‘Lizzie Glen’ so-tonner, owned and sailed by Mr. John Webb. were both exciting and amusing, and the disappointments were numerous, as the yachts which looked likely to win, would meet with a change in the wind when nearly through the flags, but instead would go shooting past, much to the chagrin of the owner, whose only consolation was seeing others doing the same, in the other heats. The match ended with cutter ‘Midge’ getting first prize, and ‘Raven’ being a close second. On Saturday, 14th August, the second ciasss yachts were sailed ina beam wind race to compete for club’s prize. There were only five competitors, the wind was very light, and the sailing was not very interesting, on account of the flukey wind and the smallness of the entries. The match ended with cut. ‘Hawk’ 36-tons getting first prize and cut. ‘Fly’ (38) second. Kingston M. Y. C.—TYhe second grand regatta for all classes was held on Bank Holiday, 2nd Aug., at the Club Lake, Inglemire Lane. The weather was brilliant, the wind of sufficient strength, and the racing very good. There were races for five classes, and 50 yachts competed. The Commodore, Mr. T. A. Bruce, acted as judge, and Mr. Alf. Grassam as starter. Amongst the visitors to witness the racing were several members ofthe Grimsby club, and also gentlemen identified with model yachting from Glasgow, Bradford, and other places. Starting from the South end of the Lake, the course made a close haul to get between the winning flags, in the earlier part of the racing it being impossible to accomplish the task in one board, but later on as the wind westered it became an easy reach. The 4ft. 6in. class won by G. THE 132 MODEL-YACHTSMAN, Smith, with his cutter, remarkably well sailed | were timed as follows :—First round—‘Quickstep’ throughout ; and the same may be said of the aft. class winner (cutter) belonging to J. H. Field. The 3ft. 6in. class was won by W. Acaster, and 3ft. by A. Acaster, the former of whom can give points in model sailing to many of the competitors. ‘The great surprise of the day was the 1o-ton match, which was won by Mr. J. Mills’ three masted lugger, with small displacement, beating all the cutters. The result was undoubtedly a fluke, the sudden freeing of the wind favouring the lugger and assisting the cutters into the calm underneath the trees. The Saturday afternoon matches have been of 4.20; ‘Southern Cross 4.25. Second round— ‘Quickstep’ 4.35 ; ‘Southern Cross’ 4.45. On the third round ‘Southern Cross’ gave up, and ‘Quickstep’ gaining all the time, was declared winner. The next race was for first-class yachts, two boats started at 5 p.m. ‘Nymph of the Glen’ took the lead, keeping up until the third round, when ‘Lord of the Horan’ smartening its pace, came in one minute sooner than the ‘Nymph’. The rounds were timed as follows: first round—‘Nymph of the Glen’ 5.12; ‘Lord of the Horan’ 5.15. Second round—‘Nymph of the Glen’ 5.25; ‘Lord of the Horan’ 5.25. Third round—-‘Lord of the Horan’ 5.35; ‘Nymph of the Glen’ 5.36. ‘The third was ordinary interests only, and as the end of the season approaches the interest gradually declines, because the issue by this date is narrowed down to one or two in each class. The results since last for second-class yachts. Four boats started at 4.5, and came in as follows: First round—‘Lady of the published are as follows :— Lake’ 4.14; 4ft. 6in, July 24, J. G. Smiter. W. Acaster. 3ft., no race. July 31, 4ft. W. Cross. 3ft, W. Bruce. 3ft. 6in. G. H. Smith. ro-ton, J. Twydell. W. Cross. G. H. Smith. to-ton, F. B. Ferraby. Aug. 7, N. H. Skow. W. Acaster. G. H. Smith. 3ft., F. B. Ferraby. 1o-ton, W. Acaster. Aug. 14, W. H. Roberts. W. Cross. G H. Smith. 3ft., W. Bruce. 1o-ton, W. H. Roberts. By invitation of the Hornsea Mere Co., the club held a regatta on Hornsea Mere, on Saturday, Aug. 21st., The primary object of the visit was to afford an interesting spectacle to the visitors ; and the club was to have half the gate as prize money. All anticipations of enjoyment and prize money were, however, destroyed for the owners of the 33 boats that travelled from Hull to compete. The weather was dull, lowering and cold, conse- quently very few spectators assembled to see the races. The Hornsea Mere Company’s Official w”s SO parsimonious in the number of boats he allowed the club, for the purpose of starting and fetching, and carrying the models from one point to another, that the races were completely spoiled and the tempers of the competitors somewhat soured. The Hornsea Mere is much too large for model yachting purposes unless a good supply of boats can be brought into use, and the next time the Kingston club visit this piece of water they will, it is hoped, have the wisdom, to choose their own time, pay hire for the number of boats they want, and do their own advertising, as evidently the Hornsea Mere Co. cannot afford to do these things properly. ‘The 4ft. 6in. class was won by W. Homan; aft. by J. A. Field; 3ft. Gin. by G. H. Smith ; and the 1o-tons by F. B. Ferraby. fort Glasgow M. Y.C.—On Saturday, July 24th, three heats were on the Dougliehill pond for the cup presented by Mr. Duncan, The first heat was for third-class yachts. Two boats started at 4.10, ‘Grace Darling’ 4.16; ‘Mary’ 4.26. Second 4.22; ‘Grace Darling’ 4.37. In the third dropped out of the ‘Nina’ 4.17: round—‘Lady of the 4.24; ‘Nina’ 4.30; round ‘Nina’ and race, which finished ‘Lady of the Lake’ 4.32: Lake’ ‘Mary’ ‘Mary’ thus; ‘Grace Darling’ 4.33. The competing yachts for the final are ‘Quickstep’ ‘Lord of the Horan’, ‘Lady of the Lake’, and ‘Grace Darling’. ‘Maggie’ will also compete in the final, being the present holder of the cup, On Saturday Aug. 7th, the final heat was sailed. The wind was pretty stiff, blowing from the South West, and all the yachts had their small sails set. On the call of time the following made a good start, ‘Grace Darling’ C. Brown ; ‘Lady of the Lake’ D. Cameron; ‘Maggie’ Jas. Cameron; ‘Lord of the Horan’ 5. M’Lees. The 20-tonner ‘Quickstep’ D. M’Donald, took her place, but did not run. The yachts were timed as follows ;—Start: ‘Grace Darling’ 4-10-30; ‘Lady of the Lake’ 4-10-30; ‘Maggie’ 4-11-9 ; ‘Lord of the Horan’ 4-11-30. First round.—‘Lady of the Lake’ 4-16-19 ; ‘Maggie’ 4-16-58; ‘G. Darling’ 4-17-50; ‘Lord of the Horan’ 4-18-23. round,—‘Lady of the Lake’ 4-24-23; Second ‘Maggie’ 4-24-55; ‘Grace Darling’ 4-27-50; ‘Lord of the Horan’ 4-27-52. Finish.—‘Maggie’ 4-32-19 ; ‘Lady of the Lake’ 4-32-21 ; ‘Lord of the Horan’ 4-37-26; ‘Grace Darling’ 4-40-4. It will be seen from the above that ‘Maggie’ has succeeded in securing the trophy once more, although ‘Lady of the Lake’ fought hard to wrest it from her. ‘The cup has to be won three times before it becomes the property ofthe successful member, so that Mr. Cameron bids fair to secure the handsome prize. Manchester M.Y.C.— On Saturday, August 7th, the third race for a 20-ton model yacht presented by Mr. Hodd, Hon. Sec. L.M.Y.C., was contested. This prize was held as a challenge prize, to be won twice by the same boat before becoming the property of the winner, Last season it was won first by Mr. H. Corbett’s ‘Daisy,’ and THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN AND CANOEING GAZETTE. } Draught 8 Beam 25.5. 5 is Z } ] PRISCILLA ATLANTIC—Length 95.4 PURITAN—Length 95.0 Lin, — p / ae GALATEA—Length 100.0 ee ee 2 : DECK AND SHEER-PLANS—¥ in. aera ; a Draught 8.2 Beam 22.7.| CLYDE CORINTHIAN 90-TONNER. PURITAN = Draught 9.6. Ream 23.5. a } —— — MAYFLOWER 0. ity HE MODEL-YACHTSM CLYDE CORINTHIAN 20-TONNER. Length on LW.L. 53in. Beam gin. in, Overall 65 in, THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN. on the second occasion by Mr. Hellawell’s ‘Lizzie.’ The third contest brought. only four boats to the starting post, namely: Mr, Mr. Mr. Mr. H. Robshaw’s ‘Challenge’ 30 l.w.]. 7 beam 28 lbs weight. C. Tomkin’s ‘Aphrodita’ i355, 8% 4, 35 ” H. Corbett’s ‘Daisy’ 354 5, 82 5, 27 ” Hellawell’s ‘Lizzie’ 36 =», I2 5, 40 ss First heat: ‘Aphrodita’ beat ‘Challenge.’ and. heat: ‘Lizzie’ beat ‘Daisy.’ Final, ‘Lizzie’ beat ‘Aphrodita.’ This valuable prize therefore becomes the absolute property of Mr. Hellawell. On Saturday, Aug. 14th, a sweepstakes handicap was raced, boats being handicapped by weight with a time allowance, according to scale calculated by Mr. C. Corbett. First heat: Mr, Hargreave’s ‘Maggie’ 3olbs, 39 sec. Gill’s ‘Egerton,’ 4glbs. 2nd heat: Mr, Cooke’s ‘Lady of the Lake’ Tomkin’s ‘Aphrodita’ 35lbs, 30 sec. 3rd heat : Mr. Goldthorpe’s ‘Ceres’ 32lbs, _ _ Mr, Osborne’s ‘Gladys’ 35lbs. start, beat Mr. 52lbs, beat Mr. start. 7 sec. start, beat Final heat: 1, ‘Maggie’ 42 sec. start ; 2, ‘Lady of the Lake’ scratch ; 3, ‘Ceres’ 37 sec. start. The time allowance is arranged in proportion to the fifth roots of the weight of the boats, allowing that a 25lb. boat can run the double length of the pond equal to 350 yards in 4oo seconds. We have now had two handicaps on this basis and it appears to be fairly satisfactory. Greenock M. Y. C.—The race for Mr. James Stewart’s marble timepiece came off on the 19th July, for which the following boats entered: First class, ‘Caledonia’ 61, N. McKechnie ; ‘Mosquito’ 65, I), Calderhead; ‘Bell of the Hunt’ 68, A. Ferguson; ‘Vampire’ 81, D. Clearey. Counted by points. ‘Caledonia’ 1o points, ‘Mosquito’ 6, ‘Bell of the Hunt’ 20, ‘Vampire’ 12. Second class race came off on the 21st July, ‘Water Witch’ 8 points, ‘Will o’ the Wisp’ 8, ‘Pandora’ 4. points, Third ‘Fairy Queen’ class, 23rd ‘Gawrey’ 22, ‘Vision’ ro. July, 24, ‘Scotia’ 8 Fourth class, a3rd July, ‘Maggie’ 22 points, ‘Grace Darling’ 18. Race 24th July, for marble timepiece presented by Ex-Provost Edward Wilson. For second class only. Entries: ‘Water Witch’ sc. 48-tons, J. Watson; ‘Flora’ sc. 41, J. McKay; ‘Will o’ the Wisp’ 52, W. McFarlane ; ‘Fairy Queen’ 54, H. Dougherty ; ‘Pandora’ 59, W. Leisk. ‘Fairy Queen’ first prize, ‘Pandora’ second, ‘Will o’ the Wisp’ third.—Race for Saturday, 31st July, for silver medal presented by Archibald Campbell, Esq., for first class only. Entries : ‘Caledonia,’ ‘Mosquito,’ ‘Bell of the Hunt,’ ‘Royal Sovereign.’ After a close contested race, ‘ ‘Royal Sovereign’ took first prize. —Race for Wednesday, 11th August, for silver cup presented by Mr. Newton. For fifth class only. Entries: ‘Mary’ ro-tons, John Blair; ‘Annie, 10, M. McKay; ‘Janet’ ro, M. Service. The three boats started in astrong breeze from the West which made the woh ae tae att lh 141 course a dead beat. Four rounds of the pond. ‘Janet’ first prize, ‘Annie’ second, ‘Mary’ did not finish. Race for Saturday, 14th August, for Ex- Provost Wilson’s timepiece. Entries : ‘Flora,’ ‘Will o the Wisp,’ ‘Fairy Queen.’ ‘Flora’ first prize. Yachting Atesws. Galatea has arrived all safe and without hap of any kind at Marblehead, and Lieut. Henn and his wife who sailed across with him have been received with great enthusiasm. Lieutenant Henn, the commander of the British yacht Ga/atea, has issued a challenge offering to sail any singlemast American yacht to Bermuda and back, his object being to show that his vessel has seagoing qualities such as no American pleasure boat of her class possesses. THE CAPE MAY AND BRENTON REEF CHALLENGE CUPS. These cups, won by Gezesta in America, would have had, according to the rules under which they were won, to go back to America if Genesta was sold out of the club she was in when she won them, consequently /rex challenged for them and the match came off on Aug. r4th. Owing to the demonstrated superiority of 7rex, the match created very little interest and the result showed that if there had it would have been thrown away. The course was from Cowes to Cherbourg and back and frex won by about four hours. Correspowderce. Letters must bear the name and address of the writers, (not necessarily for publication). Anonymous letters and enquiries will not be acknowledged. All communications to be addressed to THE EpITor, LENGTH 2 BEAM. Lodon, 3rd August, 1886. THE Epiror, 7he Model- Vachtsman. DEAR S1r,—The arguments on this subject, which you have been publishing lately are of more than passing interest. It is an important point, very: not only with reference to models, but for yachts proper; for there seems to be a generally received opinion that the various rules in vogue at present are in no case consistent with correct relative classification. I cannot help thinking that time will establish ‘Displacement’ as the only rule of yacht measurement, both great and small: and it is certain that inside of such a law there is infinite room for study and experiment both as regards shape and rig. It seems to me that the problem should stand thus—‘‘given a certain displacement, ze. actual weight,—to put it within such lines, and under such rig, as shall secure its greatest speed through the water.” Can anything be advanced in opposition to this simple statement which shall show an advantage in favour of small or great weights as against one another? Is it nota rule which would be exactly equal all round? The only difficulty I can think of would lie in getting the real displacement of large vessels— but is this an impossibility ? For models, I should propose that the hull complete (including rudder arrangement) should be accurately weighed and registered: any alteration on this point to be reported to the club in writing: THE 142 MODEL-YACHTSMAN. . and all models competing should pass over the scales at the commencement of a race, The rigging should not be taken into account, as itis to be the means used for propulsion, and its effect will be in proportion to the skill with which it is calculated. As in consequence of this we should have a class of delicately constructed boats which would now nearly approach the relative weights of real yachts, instead of the clumsy dug-outs which are so common. Besides, the care and patience exercised in this way would have its proportional reward in giving the constructor power to concentrate weight where it would do most good, and enable the vessel to stand well up to her canvas, It might be objected, that this would open an easy door for cheating—but surely members of the clubs are men of honour who would scorn to use an unfair advantage by breaking rules. The competitiors are tests for all to profit by: and they cease to be comparative as scon as the conditions of any boat are illegally altered. Pounds to models, might stand for tons in yachts, J. Yours faithfully, C. Ropinson, L.M.Y.C. THE Epitor, The Model-Vachtsman. DEAR S1rn,—The question of ‘* Measurement” in the July issue wages fierce; I trust it won’t be long. A good many, like myself, will see that a discussion, however prolonged, will net be very conducive to the intelligence of the model yachting fraternity, or in the interests of model boat building help it very much. What we model-yachtsmen want especially is, a Model Yacht Sailing Association, to embrace every Club in the United Kingdom, and until we have such, private opinions and diversity of beliefs will continue to exist, which are all very good in their own way, but are not calculated to bring harmony and good-fellowship into play. Moreover, sir, if everyone who takes an interest in this question were to correspond with you, what an amount of theory and figures you would have to crowd in for the edification of your numerous readers, everybody would want to ‘‘ vapour” about their little *‘ fads.” Looking over the ‘‘ Register,” I see most of the Clubs have both rules to suit, why should this discussion criticise so severely the tastes of either party ? If I like to build to either of these rules why should I be pounced on by the ‘‘ Vultures” who pick out the “ eyes of reason” out of our preserved ‘‘skeletons?” Ido not make or sail ‘elongated wallowers,”’ I like to stick to the “happy medium.” It won’t do to chalk down figures, lest the fate that overtook poor ‘‘Ten-Tonner ” should also light on me. Poor ‘*T.T.!” ‘sunk into insignificance,” made to ‘‘ walk the plank on edge,” ‘‘ what, an experience gone for ever ?” * ‘fifteen years’ yachting life” cut short by ‘‘ abortions,” a life-time of theory for no purpose, I expect, sir, in a future issue to see in conjunction with the ‘* Challenge Trophy,” a subscription for the consolation of poor ‘*T.T.” I shall support both. Let me express my sorrow. Shall we hear from poor ‘*T.T.” again? As for the ‘’1730” rule, ‘‘1200” rule, or’whatever you will, you can mostly find a way to eke them out, and invariably find people who will go to extremes. Should any rule be condemned for this? By all means let us have a rule that will not stretch like a piece ofindia-rubber. Just take a glance at the tabulated figures at the foot of the correspondence (July), and see what figures can accomplish. What does it let us know ?—we know the author has been to school! What does it demonstrate ?—figures! What does it mean?—nothing ! As the author himself very wisely ends in nothing, you have nothing but a joyless ‘‘ Phantom” maining. re- He has shewn to what an extent you can go in extremes by the tonnage-rule; he might still further oblige by quoting a few figures to show us how far a ‘‘simple length rule” can be carried to extremes (in the matter of beam) till in the climax he reaches something very like a ‘‘cask-head.” Let him tax his brain ‘‘over all” (and not overall length) for a rule that will not have people making ‘‘ tubs ” of their boats. As for the argument that more beam makes a better boat ‘‘in all points,” it’s a question I question very much (how much or how little should be given). My argument is that the tonnage-rules are better for all-round purposes, and are much better than a simple length rule could ever hope to be. This I apply to the ‘‘fashionables,” and not to the ‘toys ” that are sailed in “ milk ponds,” which make some people draw very lame conclusions, to the amusement and bewilderment of your various readers. One correspondent at least does not wish to return to the old length rule; let us hope he never will. He would be no party to build a boat by ‘‘rule of thumb,” or erect stages fore and aft and along sides, nor have men with chalk and batten in hand to mark off the graceful sheer, all by his eye ; nobody does this now, the old plan has forever flown. The new is better; you can know the shape of your vessel when designed on paper exactly, long before perhaps you have got stuff to build with. I am indeed at a loss to know what is meant by more ‘‘powerful boats” with more beam and less lead. Does it mean the power to spread more sail-cloth, push more water, or knock more around, or what is the use of the term? I thought the word was generally applied to the larger craft either in ‘‘sport or trade ;” it’s a very vague word to use in the absence of proof positive. I propose nor support no theory in model yacht sailing or building. I do not condemn any rule whatever, only ‘‘ length, simple length,” I won’t go absolutely in for. The task of deciding this question of rules lies with the future Model Yacht Sailing Association, to the benefit let it be hoped of all the Clubs. Could you, sir, help in this important matter? All it wants is the support of your powerful pen, proof of whose prowess we have seen in various issues. ‘‘ Tis a consummation devoutly to be wished.” When at least shall we see the end of this question? It has been going on for a long while, and we are as far off a settlement as ever. Jet it be hoped soon, Vt have to draw the line; other correspondents maybe want to vapour a bit, so to put usallin print you might crowd out, sir, even your ‘‘Editorial,”. and I believe your very indulgent readers would not altogether like that. If you can find room for this ‘“‘lengther” I trust you will. Iam, dear Sir, CUTWATER. { We have been compelled to omit part of this letter—re- lating to yachting—but the opinions expressed coincide with the conclusion arrived atin the America letter, published in our last.—-ED.] 145, Redland Road, Bristol, August 7th, 1886. THE Epitor, The Model- Vachtsman. Dear Sir,—Mr. Duckworth, of Longsight, Manchester, (whose advertisement appeared in your paper, some months ago) has forwarded to me a remarkably clean_and pleasing photograph of the Manchester M.Y.C, s.s, ‘‘ Minnow.” I doubt not that her deck fittings are as admirable as her hull is trim,—and should be very grateful if her owner would forward a sketch and description of her fittings and arrangements to your paper. Wishing all success to the Manchester models in the Liverpool Exhibition, Tam, faithfully yours, A.N.B. Tue Evitor, 7Ae Model- Yachisman. London, Aug. 9th, 1886. Sir,— It was with great surprise that I learnt that ‘‘Tentonner” was no other than the courteous and respected Secretary of the S.M.Y.C. of which Tama member. As you may imagine, I should have preferred to challenge Mr. Lear privately, rather than have taken up your valuable space for the purpose: however, I am pleased to see that Mr. Lear accepts my challenge ; and I am looking forward to a very pleasant match. I must though reluctantly, take exception to Mr, Lear’s corrections. 7°5 is the decimal notation for 744: the decimal point never being used for fractions other than those which have 10, or a power of Io, for their denominators: if Mr. Lear desires to express fractions other than decimals, (as twelfths) he must resort to ordinary vulgar fractions for the purpose. Regarding his THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN. assertion that the S.M.¥Y.C. measures by twelfths: I can ment; indeed, the second tonnage rule, after describing the they must tax their brains.” I have no doubt ‘*M.” can find a boat in the V. M. ¥. C. house to accommodate Mr. Lear, when he has accepted the challenge of Mr. C. John- the product shall be in tons and rooths of a ton 3” ze, that one: a home and home match or matches. find nothing in the club book cf rules to confirm the stateprocess to be used for measuring, expressly says: the decimal system shall be used. ‘*That Faithfully yours, Gites HALE. Guernsey, July 24th, 1886. THE Epitor, Zhe Model- Yachisman. – DEAR Sir,– With regard to length and sail area rule of measurement, it is in my opinion the best rule out and bad to beat. There is no question that great length on narrow beam coupled with depth, enable a boat to be built with large displacement and power, therefore length should be Sail area also fully taxed as an important factor in speed. is rightly taxed, as being the means of propulsion next to the wind itself. A short broad boat requires @ very large satl- plan to attain speed. I do not know how this type would compete in match sailing with the deep and narrow type under the length and sail area rule, but a shor¢ boat, witha large spread, is a very awkward arrangement im @ real boat, the sail being either very lofty, or extended beyond the length of the boat out of reach, and a source of danger. To design a successful yacht, it is of the utmost importance that the displacement—/rom stent to stern, should be disposed of ina ration of sections corresponding to the wave form. The ‘‘wave form” theory requires that the successive vertical areas of the vertical cross sections, (supposing the boat to be sub-divided into a number of consecutive compartments, from one end to the other) should each have the cubic capacity apportioned in that ratio, that will adapt the form of the immersed /ore-dody, to the wave of translation (front wave), and form of after-bedy, to the wave of replacement, A naval architect told me he designed a steamer on ‘‘wave form” (Colin Archer’s adaptation of Scott Russell’s wave line theory) with the gain of an extra 2 4mots-an-hour, A point often overlooked, is the importance of fashioning the free-board so as not to upset the balance, or centre of buoyancy of the under-water or immersed part. It is worthy of note that the experience gained in designing model yachts . 143 is not quite applicable to real vessels or boats. As boats differ in size, the relative proportions must be varied. A design for a 15ft. boat is not the most suitable for a 26ft., neither is a 25ft. design the best for a goft. yacht. In model sailing this is not apparent. R.H. Victoria Model Yacht Club House, Victoria Park, Lonpon, 20th Aug., 1886. Str,—Sorry to have to trouble you again, since “‘ T. T.” has completely acknowledged all the strictures urged against tonnage measurement ; but, to cover his defeat, quotes a letter in the Mefd from America, stating that Sedouin had beaten the crack Americans (cruisers as they would he called here), I had seen the letter previously, but in the New York Fferaid of 23rd June, I found Puritan 6.43, Priscilla 6.46, Atlantic 6.43, Mayflower 6.50, Bedouin 7.36.95, Gracie 7.55, corrected time; making Puritan 54 minutes ahead of Bedouin in a 40-mile race. By the way, I see the Galatea made 32 days to Marblehead, in weather in which a dingey could have crossed, yet was hove to 17 hours ina S.E. breeze. Speed 60 to 155 miles a day, distance run 3,300 miles. To finish off with a flourish Mr. Lear assumes that he has challenged ‘‘M” or ‘* Myth.” He really must have had the nightmare, dreamed a dream! ‘‘M” cannot find it in The Afodel-Yachtsman after diligent search; perhaps he will point it out. Mr. Hales has cleverly drawn ‘*T.T.” but Mr. Lear seems nervous over his 10, and backs it with a 15; this is rather hard, after the pre-eminent virtues of the 10. Mr, H.’s definition of a block sailed flatways and edgeways, altering its tonnage by the 1730 rule—but not its weight or bulk—is good; as also Dan Hatcham’s advice, quoted by Mr. Biddle: ‘‘Confine them to the same length, and then ston, long since thrown out, but not responded to by any- M. [ This correspondent evidently thinks our correspondent of last month ‘‘T.T.” identical with ‘‘Ten-Tonner.” A moderate amount of care in reading the letters which have appeared would have shown ‘‘M ” that they cannot be the same, ‘‘T.T.” being the initials of the gentleman who addressed us in a thoughtful letter last month, and having no connection whatsoever with ‘“Ten-Tonner,” and to our knowledge not the possessor of a tonnage boat atall. Moreover than this, Mr, Lear came forward in the same number as that in which appeared the letter of ‘‘ T.T.,” and acknowledged himself the challenger of Giles Hale, and thus to be ‘‘ TenTonner.” — Ep.] ANSWERS TO CORRESPONDENTS. G. R. ParsLey.—We shall not have space for the sailplan for some 1886, number. time. We gave a suitable one in January, Draw your model ona scale of % to an inch, as shown in January 1886 number, and take the dimensions there sh wnas a basis for operations. The boom would be better a trifle higher at the outer end. Make the hoist, head and foot of mainsail 2 inches less, Bowsprit Jin. shorter outboard, mast 2 inches shorter, other parts in proportion to these. M.Y.C. REGISTER BELFAST.—Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post, on deck, Station.—Belfast Lough. James Gardner, 6, Old Park. Ulster.—Measurement wanted, . Station—~ Waterworks, Antrim Road. J. Bell, 58, Pilot Street. BOSTON.—Tonnage—Y.R.A. Station.—River Witham, W. Keightley, {address wanted.) BROUGHTY FERRY.—\Length taken on l.w.l. up to 8ft., then ton- nage—Y.RB.A, Station—Claypots CastlezPond. Geo. Ritchie, 17, Ambrose St., Broughty Ferry, N.B. COWES, I.W.—Weight in pounds. Station.— Cc. T. Maw, West Cowes. CARNARVON.—Length. Station—-Menai Straits, J. H. Lees, Bronserial, North-road. DUBLIN, “TRINITY”—Tonnage—Y.BR.A. Station–Kingston Harbor W. H.C. Phelps, 6, Trinity College, Dublin. DUMBARTON.—Particulars wanted. DUNDEE.—Tonnage—” 94” Rule. Station._Stobsmuir Pond, Alex. Ogg, 30, Raglan-street. GATESHEAD.—Tonnage—Y.B.A. J. Dobeson, 14, Claremont Place. Station—Gateshead Park. GLASGOW.—Tonnage— 94” Rule. Station.— D. MeNicoll, 35, Clarendon-street, GREENOCE,.—Tonnage—‘ 94” Rule. Station.— N. McKechnie, 19, Belville-street. GRIMSBY.—Tonnage—Y.Rua. Station—Alexandra Dock, W. Barrett, Fish Dock. . GUERNSEY.—-Club forming. Particulars wanted. Julius A. Carey. HARTLEPOOL, W.—Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post, Lw.L J.R,. Thompson, 82, Thomas-street. HULL.—Kingston—tLength taken on 1.w.1.; also 10-ton class Y.R.A Station—Clab Lake, Inglemire Lane, Beverley Read. TH. F. Reynolds, F.C. Wood, West-parade, Spring-bank, Albert—Tonnage—yY.R.A. S$. L. Tucker, Belgrave Terrace, Rosamond St. JARROW-ON-TYNE.—Tonnage—Y.B.A. Station A. BE. Long, 124, Albert-road. [pro. tem.] LIVERPOOL.–Tonnage—Y.R.A., with limited depth ang minimum freeboard. Station—~Sefton Park Lake T. H. Hodd, Club-house, Sefton park. Wewsham.—Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post on deck; also 10-ton class, Y.R.A. Newsham Park Lake. EH. R. Williams, 11), Herschel St., Everton, West Kirby.—Tonnage “1200” Rule. Station— Station—Sefton Park, J. D, Leete, 8, Devonshire Road, Princes Road. MARYPORT, Cumberland.—Tonnage—Y.R.A. Station J. W. Hudson, 20, North-street, 144 THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN. LONDON.—M. Y. Sailing Association—Length taken on leWe.1. Station—Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. W. O. Hastings, 8, North-ter., Thurloe-square, Brompton, 8.W. Victoria—Length, taken overall and on L.w.l. Station—Victoria Park. W.8. Melville, 16, Frederic-place, Bow, E. Serpentine—Tonnage—Y.R.A. Statien—The tine, Hyde Park. – Berpen- H. Lear, 13, North-street, Westminster, 5.W. Clapham—Tonnage—Y.B.A. Station —Long Pond, Clapham Common. H. R. Girdlestone, 4, Prima Road, Stockwell, 5.W. Prince of Wale 3 Station—Victoria Park. Measurement and Sec.’s Kaye wanted, Alexandra.— STEAMBOATS. Do. London.—Length rew.l.) multiplied by beam, not to exceed 240, also 10-ton class Y.R.A, Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. Station— G, Harvey, 45, Kensington High St., W. Kensington—Length, taken on l.w.l. Station.—Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. G. M. Webb, 61, Lambeth Palace-rd., Albert Embankment, §.E, George—Length taken overall. Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. E, Tylee, 29, Oxford Square. Hyde Park, Heber Road School.—Particulars next month, CO. L. Outridge, Heber Road chool, HE. Dulwich, MANCHESTER .—Length, taken on I.wi.; ‘also 10-ton class, Y.RVA. Station—-Print Works Reservoir, Levenshulme. H. Robshaw, 180, Wellington-rd., Heaton Norris, Manchester. MENAI BRIDGE.—Length. Station A. F. Haslam, Menai Bridge. PORT GLASGOW.—Tonnage—” 4” Rule. ; CUTTERS, SCHOONERS, BRIGS, Station.—Lower Dougliehill Pond. Blocks, Deadeyes, Wheels, Skylights, Flags, FITTINGS FOR MODEL SHIPS. MODEL LISTS FREE. STEAM-ENGINES, Cylinders, Pumps, Guages, Safety Valves, and all the Separate Parts. Microscopes, Telescopes, Chemical Chests Magic Lanterns, Balloons, &e. Alex. Murray. 1, Houston-strect. 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