The Model Yachtsman and Canoeist: Volume 3, Issue 11 – November 1886

THE AXoodel- Wachtisman AND CANOHIST. —— tee – nee 24 OTR TRAE PeTTD. Er © . west rere e AMonthly Journal of Model Yacht Construction, Fitting and Sailing; Canoeing News; Doings of the Clubs; Yachting Items; Correspondence; Sale and Exchange; &c. NOVEMBER, 1886. Vol. ILI.—No. 11. Ali Communications (except Canoeing) must be addressed *¢ THe Epiror of The Afodel- Yachtsman, 161 & 162, High Street, Mull.” CANOEING Communications must be addressed ‘THe Epiror of 7he Canoerst 46, Chesilton Rd., Munster Park, London, S.W.” Price 2d., Post-free 2Ved. Goditorial Potes, WE have been favored with the information that another Model-Yacht Club has been formed at Cowes, the title, the Medina, the Hon. Sec., of THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN & CANOEIST is published on the ist of each month, and can be had of which is Mr, Wim. 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It gives us pleasure to welcome these additions to Model-Yachting and hope they will continue. —— be sent by Post Office Orders, payable to THos, GRASSAM, Hu Lt; or, if sent in Foreign Stamps, please send value in one or two stamps only, of high value.— P.O.O. made pay- in his history of American Yachting now appearing accepted. in the above journal, says, able to ‘‘7he Model-Yacktsman” will not for the future be “OUTING” FOR SEPTEMBER.—Capt. R. F. Caffin, concerning the year 162 THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN 1872, “I may mention in passing, as it is a species of Yachting, that it was in 1872 that the first Canoe Club was formed, and also I may state it was in this year that miniature Yachting was inaugurated, and for two or three seasons flourished very successfully Brooklyn. at the Prospect Park Lake in It is to be regretted that it did not continue popular, as I think some ofthe improvements in model and rig of a larger pleasure craft may be directly traceable to the experiments with the four and five feet models in the Park Lake. WE should have liked to have seen expressed by Capt. Caffin, the reason of the collapse of Model Yachting in New York. We entirely agree with | | AND CANOEIST. 1o0ce yards—and at the conclusion the result was found to be as follows : No, Points. 1…Humber…Mr. Ferraby …Kingston M.Y.C. 2 ,, » = 2… Milly ….0 » x: 3… Katie …… »» Hodd …… Richards.,Liverpool 44 | ,, 10 ,, Rome » 4—Resolute… ,, Marshall… ”” »» gave up. 2 points. »» 5…Melissa … ,, Hastings … Ulster »» » 6.,.Neptune… ,, Crebbin .., Liverpool es »» 7,..Cambria.,, ,, Acaster 5, ee », 8…Lochinvar. ,, McHardy..Liverpool ,, 0 a. .,. Kingston », Galbraith.. a Pe RED, ,, PR 9) 10,..Glide …… je, SEELEY se eroes Kingston wae avin », I1…Bathurst… ,, Kiddie…… Liverpool My Ae > »y 12,.,Lizzie.,,… »» Richmond. «4 Py » i »» gave up. yy 14…Muriel .., ,, Lear……… Serpentine ,, 8 points. » we 13… Valerie … ,, Morris…… 15…Mareme,. ,, »9 16…Eagle Dr. Walker. London . . ,, Adlington…Liverpool him in his opinion of the many lessons to be learn- »> 17..Waterwitch,, Williams … ed from model sailing, and feel sure that the reve- sy 18,,.Puzzle … ,, Harvey …… London 6 ,, Es oe Io ,, ie ae se oe lation of outside ballast would have come sooner to Three points were allowed a win to-windward and American two for a win on a reach, or running; ro being the Yachtsmen if the mode! sailing had highest possible. A protest was lodged by ‘Melissa’ flourished, — THERE is also the remarkable contrast between England and America in the progress of the two sports, Canoeing and Model Yachting, for whereas in America Canoeing has flourished exceedingly and Model Yachting died out, in England Model Yachting has progressed wonderfully whilst Canoeing has not made headway. against ‘Cambria’ for an infraction of the rule re- garding turning, and, after some discussion, allowed. Two yachts had therefore tied, with 10 points each, viz :—‘Milly’ and ‘Eagle’ (Liverpool M.Y.C.) and five yachts with 8 each, viz:—‘Katie,’ ‘Neptune,’ ‘Pet? and ‘Waterwitch’ (Liverpool) and ‘Muriel’ (Serpentine), and it was decided that the two firstnamed should sail next morning a beat-to-wind- —_—o— Tue splendid inland waters of America in a great measure account for the difference here noted, as regards Canoeing, but still we should have thought that a good pastime like Model Yachting would have had sufficient followers to keep the sport alive. ward, for first and second prize, and the five, a similar course, tn heats of two each, for the third and fourth. The result was :— a ‘ Eagle.’ SECON 45 seecnscecseceeroeres ‘Milly.’ A ___ 1c * Pet.” a ‘ Katie.’ ‘Eagle,’ however, was objected to on the ground of TEN-TON INTER-CLUB MATCH. HE third annual inter-club match was sailed on being over ro-tons, and on being floated in the Sefton Park Lake, on 28th and zgth Sept. tank, and callipers put over her, she was found to be 34” too long on |.w.1., her counter being immer The wind on both days was exceedingly disappoint- match, a postponement would have been inevitable; She was therefore disqualified It was a matter and the race awarded to ‘Milly.’ of general regret that this match, like previous for the convenience of the visitors, however, many inter-club competitions, was so adversely affected of whom were obliged to return, it was resolved to by the vagaries of the elements; however, “it’s a long lane that has no turning,” and it is to be hoped that on the next occasion, old Boreas will During the gladden us with his -breezy presence. ing, being mainly from the Westward and light withal ; and had the event been an ordinary club proceed with the race, taking the weather as it came, the chance being equal to all alike. The course was twice up and down the lake—about sed to that extent. THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN AND CANOEIST. first day, a steamer handicap was run, which was secured by the invincible ‘Maude’ (starting 10 sec. behind scratch): from 8 opponents, being second and ‘Swallow third. ‘Beatrice’ The winner covered the steamer course, the full length of the lake up and down, (say about 1300 yards,) in some seconds under g min.:—a high rate of speed taking her l.w.l. (sft. 6in.} into account. On goth Oct., 2 private match was sailed by the 20-ton class, the prize being a “ive pig presented by Mr. T. C. Morris. The entries were: Mr. Adlington’s ‘Gem’; Mr. Hodd’s Roscoe’ ; Mr. William’s ‘Wild Rose’; Mr. Howe’s ‘Sunbeam’; Mr. Marshall’s ‘Result’; Mr. Richard’s Louise’; and ‘Boadicea’; Mr. Irvine’s ‘Frances Mr. McHardy’s ‘Roderick Dhu.’ The race was out and home, and took some three Class C-——ro-tons. First prize £4, Second £3, Third £2, Fourth £1. Mr. C. Bathurst’s “Dot” Liverpool M.Y.C. » G. Hankinson’s “Ulerin’ ,, __,, » D. Kyffin’s “Wasp” yo » IT. Hankinson’s “Winnipeg” ,, Steamers—Prizes, restrained from rushing into the boat-house–where 4th ist # 1-10 each for », Crawford’s “Ethel” ee » Archer’s “Apollo” » yoooON », Engines »» Kiddie’s ‘Southport? ,, » ,, Boiler Finish Special Prizes— Best all-round model in the competion : “Tara” rst. “Amethyst” 2nd. “Det” 3rd. Best Workmanship: “Dot” and “Amy” Liverpool MYC. (atie) “Trene” Manchester M.Y.C. (Mr. Bishop) “Ulerin” Liverpool M.Y.C. – rst 2nd – 3rd 3 Best Suits of Sails, irrespective of class : “Amy” ist. “Dart” and. “Eagle” ard. The awards for other sections are unavoidably held over. and “ took the cake’—or rather the pork; to the great delight of her owner, who could hardly be 3rd __,, Mr. Archer’s “Apollo” Liverpool M. YC, Best Model ‘Gem’ (Mr. Adlington–luckiest of men) ‘Roderick near the line, when ‘Gem’ got the “fav’ring breeze’ rst 2nd Half-Models—Prize £1. Mr, Lear’s “Oiga” Serpentine M.Y.C, hours to sail off; the winner turning up in the Dhu’ the runner up flattering her owner until very 163 OUR ILLUSTRATION PAGES. We publish the lines and sail-plan ofa model yacht recently built, to sail under the rules of the Liverpool Model Yacht Club, by which the everage depth from the deck to piggy had meantime arrived—and embracing his the underside of the keel prize. idea was to get the lead as low down as possible without ex- There was a grand storm-suit breeze due South and many regrets were uttered that similar weather had not prevailed on the occasion of the inter-club race. is limited to 11 inches. The ceeding this limit, and this has been effected by cutting away both ends in the manner shewn, and although the model draws 10 inches of water the immersed area is not excessive. The great thickness of the keel, 21% inches, rendered it desirable to keep the lower edge parallei with the load water line, to diminish resistance as much as possible. The LIVERPOOL relatively full bow and fine run have been adopted to prevent INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION been accomplished in fact with the sails shewn upon the sail- MODEL YACHT SECT ION—AWARDS. SoLE Jupce, Mr. ALEX. RicHaRpson, N.A.,, » (Designer of /rex, Lorna, Samana, &*c.) Class A—3o-tons and upwards. any tendency to run off the helm when pressed. plan. To keep the boat out of the wind a weighted rudder has to be used. She is remarkably stiff, and will require a much greater spread of canvas to drive her in even moderate weather. The following isa comparative statement of the principal elements in the design and those of the Zv/e/, Donaldson’s ‘“Tara” Liverpool M.Y.C. 1st Long’s “Shiela” Ms and ard ,, Russell’s “Dixon Kemp” ,, Kyffin’s “Thought” » 9) COMmund. Class B—zo tons. First prize £3, Second £2, Third £1. Mr. T. H. Hodd’s “Amethyst” Liverpoo! M.Y.C. ist and ,, A. W. Kiddie’s “Rosebud” ,, John MaclIver’s “Amy” ys ard T. Adlington’s ‘‘Eagle” » 5 Commnd. the lines of which have alreadyappearedin 7he Afodel- Yachtsman. Design. feet. “* Kthel.” feet. 2.50 3.75 BTS 2.75 4.33 3.00 side of keel (‘Ethel’ as altered) 10.33 10.50 Do. 40.58 29.50 5, First prize, £3, Second £2, Third £1. A. A. G. D. This has Length overall v2… Do. on load water line…… Beam extreme=6 I1/r6ths.,…. Lowest freeboard 2.0… ce, Height at bow above water…… Do. sternpost do. wee Mean depth from deck to under- 57-00 44,00 6.70 50.50 43.00 7.25 Draught of water, extreme…… 10.00 8.50 Do. do. mean …….. 7.71 6.87 Area of vertical longitl. section. 344.37 sq.ft. 295.00 sq. De. load water line plane… 223.52 ,. 239.00 ,, midship section … 164 THE Midship section abaft centre ].w.1 Centre of lateral resitance do. Centre of effort of sailsabaft do. Do. do. forward of… cree eeenennnees centre L. Rion… MODEL-YACHTSMAN Design. **Fihel.” 0.00 feet 0.57 ,, 0.00 ,, 2.35 feet 2.65 45, 0,88 ,, O57 1 177 PUD Commodore, 4, 242 4, Area of lower sail ….. 1462 Jib-headed topsail . . . we… see 210 ,, 4, 1405 4; Total sailarea ……… 1672 ,, Esq., J.P. “ “Red ” ‘White class” Councillor S. Cotten. class” William Yours respectfully, Oct. gth, 1886. Cay, Esq. J. WiLson, Gateshead M.Y.C, Anglesey M.Y.C.—This club is now formed, and at present numbers about 30 members, which it is anticipated will be increased before long. – The following gentiemen have kindly consented to readers one type of model yacht only, but as this is not the take office: case we place our pages at the disposal as far as we can of dore, those who are carrying out experiments in form, equally with The Marquis of Anglesey as Commo- the Earl of Uxbridge as Vice-Commodore. Dr. Davis Hughes, President. those who may wish to publish the lines of acknowledged The club has not yet formed its rules, but intend abiding by the successes. The design unser notice is not one that we should No doubt this form Manchester rules, and will draw them out at the We should think next meeting (Nov. 4th.) she will be rather dead in light winds but fast in strong, If the model was fitted with an evenly-balanced sail-plan, she would prove very uncertain in her movements, and having to carry a rudder to counteract the tendency to luff up, with her present sail-plan, her speed will be affected thereby, They have already sett- led the subscription, which is entrance fee. 2/6 annually, 2/6 The club has settled that no vessel be admitted measuring less than 1ft. 6in, on water- line. thus the advantages secured by large displacement and low ballast will be more than outweighed by the impossibility of Serpentine M.Y.C. (London ).—On giving such a boat that balance of sail with which a straight keel boat may safely be fitted, and every stitch, be expected a private match for two hours, to pull. It seems a great pity that the model yacht designer cannot experiment with advantage on the exact lines of the latest form of racing yachts, but so it is. Wardle, surer, R. Swainston, Esq. been learned we should have the duty of presenting to our will do wel! under certain circumstances. P. J. Lawson; Secretary, Thomas Cay, Esq.; Trea- If everything that could be learned in model yachting had recommend to cur readers in general. J. “Blue class” W. Weatherburn, Esq. Captain, T. Tully, Esq.; Sailing Captain, Councillor Ist suit 942 sq.ft. BET. 4, csc cen cmc 247 CANOEIST. ChiefCommodore, Design. ‘Ethel.’ Displacement… ….. 35.5lbs. 29.0lbs, 27.30 tons 21.090 tons Weight of lead keel.24.5 ,, 17.0 ,, 1884 ,, 13-00,, Do. ballast … 3.5 5, 40,, 2.70., 1.50 ,, Do. hull,spars,&c7.5 ,, $0, 5.7755 6.50 ,, sails, 2nd suit. Mainsail ….. SD DET a Ak gsi sq.ft. Foresail …… anda ogee denuntiapainasdl 264 4, AND discussion Whilst racing going on in your Sept, 22nd, the outcome of the valuable journal between tonnage and length, was sailed between yachts kept to the straight keel, we as model-yachtsmen ‘Mosquito’ 3ft. waterline by 11 inches beam, Mr. much modified, as all deadwood can be dispensed with in G. Hale; and ‘Muriel’ ten-tons 3ft. 5in. x 7°4, the yacht, but a considerable quantity, must be retained in Mr. H. Lear. ‘Mosquito,’ well sailed by her owner, were getting ahead of them, but our power to do so now is the model. after the first few boards, which she won, could not Doings of the Chibs. hold the ‘ten’ when once her trim was found. Reports for publication must be legibly written, on one 6 boards on and off the wind the tonnage boat side of the paper o#/y, and forwarded to the Eprror not later than the 20th of each insertion in the following issue. month, to ensure Contributions to this column are solicited from all the Model Yacht Clubs. NEW CLUBS. squeezed her long body through the water at a | head of speed, her beamy rival could not get up with. Sheets adjusted, we failed to observe the tendency S1r,—I am pleased to inform you that we are likely to have some match racing next season, a For we are told the tonnage addicted to, of sailing to the lee, classes are instead of the weather side of the course, at least only when she Model Yacht Club having been formed at Jarrow was required to go in that direction. and South Shields, where we may expect to see some and windward board ‘Mosquito’ had, then three good rivals, some of the members being prominent trips to the ten, gentlemen in our local shipyards. The following The first run one to the lengther, another to ‘Muriel,’ one more to ‘Mosquito,’ then for the last Club: six trips, close-hauled and free, tonnage would not President. The Mayor, J. C. Eltringham, Esq., J.P. be denied the extra turn of speed claimed for it. are the officials of the South Shields MODEL-YACHTSMAN AND CANOEIST. 165 ‘Mosquito’ carried whole lower sail with small jib and ‘Marguerite’ 5 lbs, R. Bird, managed to secure ‘Muriel’ had second main and foresail, first prize for the second time in succession, but header. third jib and small jib-headed topsail. ‘Muriel’ ‘Pitti Sing’ 3 lbs, Miss M. H. Maw, was only two scored 20 points, ‘Musquito’ 8 points. 14 trips seconds later, with stiff N.E. breeze were made in the two hours ina ‘Jumbo’ Gretton, close in her wake. 2% lbs, Miss K. L. Mrs. de Horsey very On September 25th, the second private match was kindly sailed between 12in. Admiral de Horsey once more officiated as umpire, of the Victoria club; and greatly contributing to the success by his excellent beam, ‘Glance’ 3ft. waterline by Mr. Johnson, Wiggs, of the Serpentine club, ‘Quickstep’ Mr. (1o-tons.) After a capital match in light weather, the boats scored very evenly. asserted itself, Eventually tonnage ‘Quickstep’ scored 8, ‘Glance’ 6 points, during the two hours. club was held in perfect weather off the Green at The breeze was West Cowes, on Sept. 7th, 1886. moderate but steady, and the models under every stitch of canvas afforded management a more than usually interesting spectacle for the numerous spectators. The time allowance was given at the start, so that the first yacht across the line in each case won. Tn the first class, exceeding 30 lbs. ‘Formosa’ cut. 39 lbs., P. Atkey, started with a long lead; ‘Kelpie’ to of the distribute races. the On prizes, the races were sailed. exceeding 15 lbs. In the first race for models surprised many old hinds by sailing well enough, though ballasted with cement, to lose by only a few seconds. The others were some distance astern. The other race brought the smallest models to the front, and ‘Zephyr’ 5 lbs, Miss A. M. Gretton, was first ; closely followed by ‘Flying Cloud’ 3 lbs, T. Maw. Mr. C. T. Maw acting as umpire, Clapham M. Y. C. (London. )—This ‘Formosa’ club did a good day’s work on September 30th, their regatta being brought. off with signal success. ‘Kraken’ went ashore, P. very successfully arranged these races. weather, good north-westerly breeze, C. T. Maw. Maw, ‘Kraken’ a three-mast topsail-yard schooner pursuit, closely ‘Ayacanora’ 60 lbs, following ‘Tide’ sch. 23 lbs. H. T. 62 lbs., J. Gretton, came ploughing along in hot followed by and Wednesday, in a strong 5.W. wind two consolation won. Cowes M. Y.C.—The annual regatta of the above consented of strange craft, many entries, Splendid course clear few absentees, ex- won a most exciting race by a few seconds only cellent company and capital time—every condition and of good sport was at the club’s disposal. ‘Kelpie’ was exceeding 3olbs. race. second. Second class, not There were seven starters in this All of them reached the leeward mark ina were matches for the seven, There ten, and five-tonners, but owing to the entries being so numerous the pretty fives and threes had to sail in divisions, so that race ended by ‘Ruby’ 20 lbs, G. Stapelton, taking practically there were seven matches, and to decide first prize, while ‘Electra’ 30 lbs, J. Gretton, was these it became necessary to sail the course over ‘Ethel’ 29 lbs, H. Wheeler, was fifty times, being the greatest number of passages cluster and some fouling ensued. awarded second. A very third, and ‘Coisan’ 17 |bs,.A. White, these came foaming across the Third class not exceeding 15 lbs. line next. All together. ‘The Captain’ cut. 12 lbs, C. T, Maw, proved the winner, beating ever sailed in one day onthe long pond. The seven-tonners started at ten o’clock for two hours’ sailing. The entries were Mr. Rundle’s cut. ‘Fox’, Mr. Girdlestone’s yaw] ‘Pearl’, Capt. Methven’s cut. the schooner ‘Nona’ 15 lbs, H. F. Gretton, as they ‘St. Katharine’, Mr. Moor’s Bermudian ‘Snowflake’ both crossed the winning line neck and and neck, Mr. Harvey’s cut. ‘City Belle’. ‘City Belle’ ‘Marjorie’ 13 lbs, B. Stapelton, was third, a minute did not start, owing to her owner being detained later. There were twelve starters in this race, but the at the inter-club match at Liverpool. smaller models were rather out-classed, as it is a over five tons, but sailed as aseven, the other boats long step from 15 lbs. to 6lbs, Fourth class, 5 lbs. being of full measurement, the sailing was very and under, Again the result was closely contested, close between ‘Fox’ and ‘Pearl’, the little cutter ‘Fox’ is just | Rabanne chen alae THE 166 THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN winning most of the windward passages. AND CANOEIST. After the afforded by this fleet of small cutters beating up first hour ‘Snowflake’ then beginning to pick up, the course in two divisions on opposite tacks, their carried away her mainmast and had to retire. white sails showing out brightly in the rays of the The match ended in ‘ Pearl’ being first, ‘ Fox’ second, afternoon sun. and ‘St. Katharine’ third. It may be interesting to day, the contest proved anything but a runaway As was the case all through the note that ‘Pearl,’ built as a ‘240’ boat for the Lon- affair, and after nearly equal scoring, ‘Maria’ came don M.Y.C., was timed on several of her down-wind out first, and ‘Storm’ passages, and was found to scud go yds. a minute, of the leaders in each division ‘Maria’ again came being at the rate of 224 knots or about 3 miles an to front and finished first, with ‘Storm’ second, second. In the final fight hour.—The five-tonners were got under way at half- ‘Rover’ third and ‘Bouncer’ fourth. past one, the entries in the first division being Mr. of the fives, the match was decided by the last Morgan’s ‘Janet,’ Mr. Ross’s ‘Faerie Queen,’ Mr. Asin the case passage, and owing to the punctuality observed Philpot’s ‘Edith, Mr. Braine’s ‘Storm,’ (all cutters), throughout, the racing finished to the minute. and Mr. S. Philpot’s yawl ‘Wave.’ During the interval between the seven and five-ton ‘Fairy Queen’ ‘Janet’ matches, a cold luncheon was served in the tent, coming in first, ‘Edith’ second, and ‘Storm’ third. and at the close of the programme tea was provided In the second division the entries were, Mr. U. G. The club kept open house during the day for mem- Philpot’s yawl bers and friends, and the races were did not start. The racing was very level, ‘Superb,’ Mr. H. R. Girdlestone’s yaw] ‘Ariel,’ Mr. R. Guy’s cutter ‘Judy,’ Mr. R. watched throughout with much interest by a considerable At the close a vote of Rundle’s cut. Spree,’ and Mr. W. J. Gordon’s cut, number of spectators. ‘Electric’ ; here again the struggle wasa close one, thanks was enthusiastically accorded to Mr. Girdle- ‘Superb’ was first, and ‘Ariel’ second; ‘Electric,’ stone, one of the most esteemed of the club’s past who lost two passages through being sent up in officers, to whom the chief part of the success of irons, was third. the regatta was due, and whose ‘Pearl’ had very In the deciding match between the two leading boats in each division, ‘Superb’ won, ‘Ariel’ being second ; ‘Janet’ third and ‘Edith’ fourth. So equal was the fortune in the match that the result was in doubt to the end. At half past three, the first division of three-tonners were in line, the entries were Mr. Philpot’s ‘Dolphin’ Mr. Harvey’s ‘Minnie’ Mr. Harper’s ‘Beagle,’ Mr. F, Philpot’s ‘Eagle,’ Mr. Girdlestone’s Mr. Hester’s ‘Daphne’ ‘Bouncer,’ and Mr. U.G. Philpot’s ‘Rover’ all being cutters. ‘Minnie’ did not start, her owner being engaged at Sefton Park; and appropriately headed the prize winners. {Reports from the Kingston and Gateshead Clubs are omitted for want of space.—Ep.| CANOEING. Wear man writes: ‘To keep the members together during the winter months we intend holding camp-fires once a month. We shall begin ‘Beagle’ did not start her owner being away ona proceedings by a feed, camp-fire style, after which cruise with the R.N.A.V, we shall have a paper read and discuss any new The result of the hours’ sailing placed ‘Rover’ and ‘Bouncer’ as first and wrinkle or invention. second. In the second division the entries were Oct. 19th, when we shall have a sort of elfresco Mr. H. Guy’s ‘Spray,’ Mr. W. Philpot’s ‘Sunbeam,’ supper, when J am to give a review on canoeing Mr. Ross’s ‘Griffin, Mr. E. Moor’s ‘Storm’ Mr. from the early Esquimaux ‘“Kayah” up to the Rundle’s ‘Maria,’ and Mr. T. Gordon’s ‘Mabel’ ; present day, and the Captain will follow with a ‘Griffin’ and ‘Mabel,’ though on the ground, did paper on the Modern Canoe. not start, it being thought best not to over crowd trate our papers as we go on by sketches on the the course. black board. The prettiest sight of the day was The first will be held on All of us will illus- We intend to do our utmost to ~ THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN AND CANOEIST. ofthe sail, 171 hinder fellows from building monstrosities during on the peak Then again those who the coming winter, and we want to keep the beam belong to the A.C.A,, that is to say American down to 30 inches in the extreme, as that is amply Canoeing Association, have their number painted on sufficient for all purposes.” the sail, but when any of the canoeists take a [Go ahead Wear! you have the spirit of your absent Commodore]. female passenger on board, it is commonly reported —o— REEFS. The R.C.C. are drawing in their horns a as a fact that the number was either covered or little, but only a very little; that is instead of holding a . kept out of sight so that who was who remaineda mystery. I A. slight improvement on the over land and over- suppose by way of making the thing thoroughly water race sailing of the R.C.C. has been made in dinner as heretefore it is to be a steak supper. national that the grace will be supplanted by the America, and the following is a plan of it :~ Say joyous strains of “The roast beef of Old England.” there were ten entries. Besides such a supper is an unconirovertable com- anchored say 50 yards from the shore in deep mentary on their digestive capacity, and therefore water. unintentionally or otherwise a big compliment is fand, ran as fast as they could, took a header and paid to canoeing as a healthy pastime. swam to the canoes, climbed on board, and started I learn that at the great cance camp in America there were many things interesting, as note the following : ‘Many pranks were played onthe _ early- to-bed by a small clique of ozw/s who could be The ten canoes were The men started from a given point on the the race. I always said that these Yankees were a go-ahead race. Of course everybody on this side of the pond is sorry Bader Powell and Stuart lost the big race in found any night around the camp-fire near the which they competed, but to show that the best wharf. sympathy prevails, the Yankees started a subscrip- It wasa marvel how these chaps could live without sleep.” tion and got prizes for which the two English boats [So I wondered last Whitsuntide when a coterie of the London Scottish took to boating, and, worse luek for the two hundred other camps at Sunbury, insisted on playing the Bagpipes until 3 a.m., and in doing a heavy tramp, tramp, over the bridge to the supposed tune. This was not the worst of it, for just when the restless Scots, orsons of Scots, turned in, another set turned out, and so sleep was banished for all.| The following verse was painted on the “dondy” of a canoe at the A.C.A. camp, in black letters :— ‘© They say that Iam small and frail, And cannot live in stormy seas : Ii may be so, yet every sail Makes shipwreck in the swelling breeze, Nor strength, nor size can hold them fast, But fortune’s favour heaven’s decree. Let others trust in oars and masts, But may the gods take care of me.” should compete with the two successful ones, namely “Vesper” and “‘Pecowsic.” Can anybody tell me how to pronounce the word P ec ows 1c—which if I understand it is Pe-cow-sic. IPfwrongly syllabled who will correct me P It is reported that Stuart, the youthful but active and enthusiastic sailor, who with Powellrepresented the English, “left some of his property behind him at every place he stayed at.” Ihave myself seen his knife stuck in the grass 12 feet from the canoe, have away. seen a camera standing under a tree yards I haveseen screws, nuts, and tools all strewn very far away, not to mention a few little things scattered in nearly every tent in the camp, this I saw of a young gentleman also a clever canoe sailor not unknown to R.C.C. men. A fashion has sprung up over the water of having some creature, monogram, crest or badge painted Perhaps the most enjoyable thing of the R.C.C. 172 THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN AND CANOEIST. camp last year was Stuart’s high tent. He com- “WEAR” CANOE, By A. menced to fit it up about a quarter to ten p.m., but as the difficulties of fitting it in,and the un- certain nature of it when-fitted, created so much laughter in the rest of the camp, every body became too bad with laughing torender him much assistance. A correspondent writes me :—“You would have laughed had you been beside me a week past Friday. Some time ago I hada friend with me off for a fishing trip at sea in my canoe. trip, and wanted another. he was not satisfied. He liked the “ZEPHYR.” McLeEop. (Continued.) There are several special points about the canoe to which we draw further attention. Ist.–She is only 14ft. long, and yet isa comfortable canoe for two men, for when she has a double crew on board and all stores she has Sin. freeboard. 2nd.—She is practically watertight compartments. carrying 60ft. of her 3rd.—She is very stiff under sail, on a beam wind, tc fresh breeze blowing, ballast. unsinkable, on account in a high séa and a strong without centre board and without 4th.–She has tumbling-home sides, giving a narrow deck for paddling, also making her a dry boat when sailing, It is a fallacy to suppose that tumble-home reduces stability; I gave him another, but a canoe without tumble-home but with a flare-out side (that He was rather inclined to is widest at the deck) does not obtain the benefit of her beam until she is gunwales under, and heeled at a dangerous think he had a right to accompany me every time angle. I went off. the water line, another advantage of tumble-home is This was coming it rather strong; so I had to devise some means of shaking him off Whereas my canoe has the benefit of her beam on on illustration page. shewn (a) represents a canoe with flare-out side heeled over until the water isa considerable distance (as he is a person who would not go in for a canoe onto her deck, whereas (b) is a canoe with tumble-home of his own) ; so last Friday week I wanted to go heeled to the same angle and yet the water has not reached alone; he wanted to go too. going “two” in my canoe. I said I was not He was very dubious about going alone, but I was determined, so he had to give in, I providing him a canoe. We launched. * 5§th.—Ancther point is the light centre-board. I think it absurd to use centre-boards 5 thick, thus rendering the canoe a burden fur even 3 men to lift. I told him how to get into his he had a better way of his own,—and so it was for I think a canoe ought te be arranged so that 2 men can easily lift and carry her with all stores on board. 6th.–The rudder I shew is different from that of the ‘Severn.’ canoe safely, but he was too bigoted, and thought my purpose. her deck. The lower part works on a pin, so that by pulling on the cord shewn I can raise it up. place. By letting go the cord it drops down into its Itis not necessary to pull it up to clear’a rope or other obstruction, as of its own accord it rises as soon as it touches anything when beaching the canoe, and falls down He got in (for a moment only), next as soon as clear, I look upon the centre-board only asa moment he was trying the ‘salt water cure’ by im- means to hinder the canoe making leeway, and we find that bibing involuntary draughts of the river Wear. Of course you will understand his upset was quite an accident, oh, quite anaccident!! I fished him out. He said he was quite satished with his ‘Watery Her lines are somewhat thick, but then she carries sufficient canvas to overcome that. She is an easy canoe for one man to paddle, 2 men make her literally fly. When we had our trip to Chester-le-Street, it was blowing a hurricane up stream, and I set the mizen (19ft.) forward [Hylton ?] and sailed her up the rapids, the current I had to stem was so strong that a Wanderings’.” man could hardly keep his feet when he was in knee-deep, “ Sharpie” (Bristol) writes as follows :—-‘‘ Could any of your numerous subscribers furnish me with any information upon the American Sharpie Canoe.” [I only know the Sharpie Canoe by name, but will try and keep your letter before me, and make inquiries. Perhaps Mr. Baden-Powell or Mr. Stewart, who have just returned from the States, could send a reply to this.| canoes were touching bottom mine was clearing all ground, Referring to (Fig. 6) you will see I keels. have shewn two bilge These are strips ofelm 3/in. deep and about aft. long, fastened on to the second seam from keel. page These are to save the bottom when landing, and tend to make canoe sit upright on shore. I think I have about finished for the ALEX. McLeop, ‘ZepHyr’ W.C.C. *[Just so, but here is a question, when part @ is under, has the boat passed her balance of stability? NOTICE issue will contain a full When we came down stream I was in her alone, but I car- ried a very large share of camp stores, and when the other present. YELLOW BLADE. OvuR next 3/16 iron is stiff enough to obtain 15” drop. of illustrations of Mr. Holmes’ new Boat Fittings, together with two cuts of the Winning American Canoes, etc. Surely the out- standing gunwale @ has more resistance when in the position drawn, than has & In other words, it would take more wind or dead pressure to force cance a to position shown than it would 4 Ifso! what becomes of your argument? If we are wrong in our conclusions, may we ask what would THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN happen if a cance was made perfectly oval? that is, carry out your tumble-home to a greater extreme. If this reduction of top beam is a good thing, why carry it still further, then see if you get increased stability. —Ep.] and Our own faithful cruiser now on sale. GRINDSTONE ISLAND. forest & Stream hits off the great meet in the following words : “THE MEET OF 1886, Camp Grindstone, St. Lawrence River.—Again for the seventh time the members of the American Canoe Association have gathered together under the red and white flag, and for the third time their white tents shine on the sunny hillside, the white sails glisten on the blue waters, the fires burn brightly on the hilltop, and the silence that reigns unbroken for fifty weeks each year departs before the shrill signal calls of canoes and steamers, the uproarious shanty song and the merry glees. This is the last year, for a time at least, that the meet will be held at Grindstone Island, but one thing is certain, search as far as they may, through the length and breadth of this great country, the canoeists will find no more beautiful spot, and very few that can equal it. To appreciate and enjoy it is one thing, to convey an idea of its beauty to one who has not seen itis a task for only a master painter in words to attempt. The bluest of deep blue skies, waters clear and pure and of the same color, in which are dropped green islets of all shapes and sizes, while far away the wooden spires merge into a softer mistier green, broken here or there by a pretty cottage, a solitary spire, or an odd little lighthouse, none so new as to destroy the sense of seclusion and isolation from the busy world, which makes the time spent here so restful in spite of the bustle and fun that goes on constantly. The day begins with a glorious sunrise over the eastern islands, and ends at night with a blaze of fire to be seen from the hilltop for half an hour, then a clear starry sky, while all the time the air is of the purest and clearest. The dry, sandy soil, the shady hill- side, and the many beautiful points for a cruise, make the site a desirable one in every way fora camp, while the courses are probably as good as will be found. A meet on salt water is now proposed as a novelty and may be held next year, but no such location as this can be found for it.” THE CANADIAN CANOE. October 11th, 1886, THE Epitor, The Canoetst, S1r,—To any ordinary reader of the article on canoeing in the October No. of the Caneeist, it would seem that Canadian Canoes were simple play boats, and that those using them were not to be classed as canoeists. As one who has had a little experience both in Mersey and Canadian Canoes, I should not like such an impression to remain uncontradicted. There is work, and good work to be done in the Canadian Cances, which I cannot help believing are far superior to any other kind of canoe on Rivers, and in this AND CANOEIST. 173 opinion I feel convinced that those who know how to use the single bladed paddle will agree. No one I think who has once handled a Canadian Canoe would care, if he had the preference, to shoot a rapid or weir in one of any other construction, and ina canoe intended to be the most important auxiliary of River Camp life; the yacht canoes which so many of us have adopted for the sake of sailing powers are hardly as suitable as Canadians, Do not suppose that I wish for one moment to under-rate the cruising canoe in which so much has been done on our stormy coasts, or to see it become a thing of the past—all I wishis to say a word in favour of the pure type of canoe which I believe the Canadian to be—and to recommend those who desire to cruise on river-ways to adopt the canoe which for convenience in portage and dexterity in handling is most suitable. Canoeing I trust is still in its infancy in England, and by all means let us do all in our power to promote the cause so dear to us, and whether we weild the single or the double bladed paddle, welcome (as is done in the States and Canada) both classes to our clubs, and canoeing literature. Yours obediently, Napa, M.C.C. We are sorry that Mr. Holden so far misunderstood our remarks in last issue, as to suppose for a moment, that we intentionally said anything to disparage in ever so slight a degree the Canadian canoe for its legitimate purpose. At the same time we have a lingering suspicion it is not the best kind of canoe to go to sea in, and it is not the best kind of canoe in which to keep your traps dry and the water out ina wet day. At the same time for river work there is a freedom about life on board one of these boats that the more confined decked-over are minus. Correspomderce, Letters must bear the name and address of the writers, (not necessarily for publication}. Anonymous letters and enquiries will not be acknowledged, All communications to be addressed to THE Epiror. MEASUREMENT. , Victoria Park, London, 18th Sept., 1886. THE Epiror, 7he Model-Yachtsman, SIR,—Just a few words in reply to your esteemed correspondents. I must congratulate ‘‘Ten-Tonner” on standIng to his colors, and that the thoughtful letter of ‘*T,.T.” (which deceived many) was not his production. A ‘“moderate amount of care,” as you say, and I admit, would have prevented the mistake. Now as regards the weighing busi-_ ness, I cannot agree. It would produce the American type of shallow, no freeboard vessels, all lengths and sizes could compete, confusion would reign. The slightly built boats would hardly hold together; sometimes one weight, sometimes another, as they had been more or less used ; ‘‘weigh ! weigh ! weigh !” the costermonger cry, would resound, small displacement skimming dishes abound ; and we should have nothing to face the heavy seas and gales the favourite manipulation ‘1730’ rule is supposed to delight in, but which ‘‘yachtsmen” carefully eschew. Asarule, the ‘1730’ has disgraced the country. Lieut. Henn wanted more bean I am told. Shall we goto the other extreme so lately condemned? Our facetious friend ‘‘Cutwater,” after giving a lecture, leaves us all adrift in the measurement matter; he puts me in mind of the “‘leaves.” The length overall, to which I stick, is genuine, it produces a good ‘‘fohn Bull” boat, of some use and value, arather strong reality sometimes J must admit ; I think its limit is 1334 for a 3°3 boat, The ‘1730’ is an expensive toy or coffin, as proved by ‘Oona,’ &c, With respect to how the clubs are to come together, the question rests with the tonnage-men, who brag, and who have departed from the old rule, seeking to make a longer (larger) boat a smaller one, by an absurd rule, The sailing of these boats puts me in mind of a soldier ‘‘marking time” 174 THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN or as Jack says ‘‘pulling against a rousing strong tide.” I agree with “R.H.” that length should be taxed; but not that a short boat veguzves a large sail. I find, and am surprised at the speed attained under small canvas by extreme beamy boats, in fact, that is their best point. They may drive, but they donot plough like ‘1730’ type. The late Mr. Froude made his improvements by means of models, and there is much to be learnt thereby: for instance, the enormous depression that a press of sail produces on the hull of the boat, which can not be measured and is never allowed for. Boats will settle square down to their decks; and I have seen rising floor shallow boats run, the water an inch deep, level, right over them. By-the-bye, how would you tax a man for his increased displacement when under weight ? The difficulty of getting a long bow, long body, and long men out of a short length, is the primary cause of the institution of ‘“‘elongated wallowers, when it becomes so easy.” Yours faithfully, M. A CORRECTION. October 4th, 1886, THE Epviror, 7te Model- Yachtsman. Sir,—I fee] bound to apologise to Mr. Hale through your columns for an extraordinary mistake in my last month’s letter. I there stated that a boat 4ift. x 7°5, was under 1o-tons Y.R.A. As the paper on which I calculated it out is mislaid, Iam unable to trace my error; but E have since calculated it out twice; and it is certainly above 10-tons, Again apologising to Mr. Hale for the mistake, I remain, yours faithfully, W. E. C. PHELrs., A SUGGESTION. Lowestoft, October gih, 1886, TuHE Epitor, Zhe Model-Yachtsman. Sir,–I have watched the discussion going on with respect to the measurement of model yachts, and think that in most of the correspondence the length classes seem to be entirely forgotten, most of the clubs having both tonnage and length yachts, both of which are the source of much sport, and can in no way be associated together. I see no other plan of bringing all the clubs together than the Ten-Ton Y.R.A. rule, until some other be substituted, and stick to length on l.w.]. up to three-feet, both ciasses giving good scope for the designer. I will make a suggestion which in my opinion will give a little help to model yachting. Let every club form a /unior Club, say of lads up to sixteen years ata veduced subscription, and restrict the boats to two feet or two feet six w.l. No doubt many lads would join that are now prevented from doing so. And also I would give more encouragement to other rigs in every class, giving prizes occasionally for various types, thinking these suggestions would help on the sport and also 7he Afodel- Vachtsman, Yours truly, F.J.T. A CORRECTION. Hopehill Road, Glasgow, Oct. 16th, 1886. Tue Evitor, The Model- Yachisman, Dear Sir,—Kindly permit me to correct an error in my jetter of Sept. 15th, as it appears in your October number. It occurs where I point out that at about six beams the ‘gq’ rule seems to allow a bigger ten-tonner than the ‘1730.’ “43°74 beams by ‘94’ rule = 9°95 tons.” (see page 158) should read 43 x by 7°25 (seven and a quarter) = 9°99 ( or 99 ) = Iotons, Too The same dimensions by £1730’ = 10°58 = 11 tons. I remain yours faithfully, G. J. ELpEn. WAVE LINES. THE Epitor, 74e Model- Vachtsman. DEAR S1k,—In the September number of your valuable paper one of your correspondents mentions Mr. Colin Archer’s system of waye construction. I had waited for a AND CANOEIST. more experienced pen than mine to pronounce an opinion, but as one who has experimented with the theory I would warn model-yachtsmen against violently adopting it. In the first place it is very troublesome for those to apply it who do not care to work out tbe positions of the various centres and other elements as in the plans of a racing yacbt. And the result is a very delicate boat. With great care she may go as fast to windward as fuller-bowed models, but, at best she sadly misses a guiding hand at the tiller to nurse her along. The form of the displacement curve necessitates a considerable hollow forward, or a very round away fore-foot. In the first place, the boat lacks stability, in the second steadiness, Ona reach or running, a wave model is unapproachable, other things being equal. The schooner ‘Electra’ reached along the measured mile the other day in a light fluky breeze at a speed of 3°24 miles per hour. She is a wave model 3ft. 6in. on the water line and 3o0lbs. displacement, with good stability and moderate beam. The wave form requires a longer bow than most model-yachtsmen would care to put on a narrow medel, Among racing yachts ‘Sappho,’ ‘Arrow,’ ‘ Lulworth,’ ‘ Miranda,’ ‘Jullanar,’ ‘Cocker’ and ‘Bloodhound,’ agree very closely with the wave theory. But equally successful vessels,—-‘Egeria,’ ‘Florinda, ‘Lily,’ ‘Cambria,’ ‘Kriemhilda,’ ‘Vanassa,’ and the two ‘Fredas,’ though in very near accordance in their sterns are considerably fuller in the bow than the wave system would prescribe ; while Latona’s bow curve is very nearly wedgeshaped. In conclusion. I would suggest that the stern is best formed when in accordance with Colin Archer’s system, but the bow in model yachts should be fuller. I should be glad to send you the lines of my latest wave model if you would Yourg truly, care to publish them. Nona, C.M.Y.C, [Send on the lines.—£@,] ANSWERS TO CORRESPONDENTS. Gero. R. Srusns.—We cannot at present publish the saillan. Draw one out yourself from the following dimensions : Mast deck to hounds 36 inches; mast head 7 inches; topmast 36 inches; bowsprit outboard 26 inches ; mainboom 46 inches ; gaff 30 inches ; hoist of mainsail 32 inches. F, J. T.—Thanks for your continued efforts on behalf of our paper. CLYDE CORINTHIAN.—The 10-tonner shall appear in due course. SINBAD,-—Your letter is unavoidably held over. ajachting Aterurs. A challenge to race for the American Cup has been sent from the Clyde, on behalf of Mr, J. Bell, of the Royal Clyde Y. C., and we understand it is the intention of Mr Bell to have a yacht specially designed and built on the Clyde, and manned by a Clyde crew. Whether the Yacht to be built will be of the narrow British type or approximate more to the beamy American, is not known. —0O— Tue famous English Schooner Miranda, one of the cracks a few years ago, has been beaten in America by the schooner Sachem, a compromise vessel, or what might be termed Anglo-American, designed by Burgess, the designer of Mayflower. Meanwhile, the C/arva, and the smaller British yachts continue to settle the American sloops of the same length. THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN AND CANOEIST. THE NAVIES OF GREAT BRITAIN, France, ITALY, GERMANY & RussIA.—The late Director of Naval Construction, Sir Nathaniel Barnaby, has prepared a sheet of Diagrams, bringing clearly before the eye the salient features of the superior portions of the fleets of five European Powers, with a view of assisting the public to form a judgement on difficult technical questions of great national moment. The diagrams are now in the press, and will shortly be published George—Length taken overall. sington Gardens. E. Tylee, 20, Oxford Square. Hyde Park. REGISTER We shall be pleased to insert particulass of all Clubs, and invite the Secretaries to forward the necessary information; also, to notify any change in Names and Addresses. YV.K.A. (1883) Rule of Measurement—Tonnage—lin. to lit. Length (L-w.l.) vided by 1730. “94 added to beam, squared, multiplied by beam, di- Rule of Measurement–Tonnage—Length ‘l.w.1.) less breadth multiplied by the breadth, and by the half-breadth, divided by 94. 1200” Rule of Measurement—Tonnage—lin. to 1it., Length (lw.1.} multiplied by length, and the product by the breadth, divided by 1200. Station ANGLESEY.—Length. A. F. Haslam, Menai Bridge. BELFAST.—Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post, on deck, Station.—Belfast Lough. James Gardner, 6, Old Park. Heber Road School.—Particulars wantcd. C. L. Outridge, Heber Road School, HE. Dulwich, T. H. Hoda, Club-house, Sefton park. Wewsham.—tLength, taken from stem-head to stern-post on deck; also 10-ton class, ¥.R.A. Station— Newsham Park Lake. E. R. Williams, 110, Herschel St., Everton. Station—W aterworks, Antrim Road. BOSTON.—Tonnage—Y.R.A Geo. Ritchic, 17, Ambrose St., Broughty Ferry, N.B. Station.— m. Silbeck, West Cowes. J. H. Lees, Bronserial, North-road. Station—Menai Straits, DUBLIN, ‘“TRINITY’—Tonnage—Y.R.A. Station–Kingston Harbor W. E. C. Phelps, 6, Trinity College, Dublin. Station–Meadow Park. DUMBARTON.—Tonnage—Y.B.A J. Turnbull, 4, Overburn Terrace. Rule. 94” DUNDEE.—Tonnage—”* Station.—Stobsmuir Pond. Alex. Ogg, 30, Raglan-street. GATESHEAD.—Tonnage—Y.B.A. J. Dobeson, 14, Claremont Place. GLASGOW.—Tonnage— 04” Rule. Station—Gateshead Park, – Station.— D. MecNicoll, 35, Clarendon-street. GREENOCK.-—Tonnage—” 94″ Rule. Station.— N. McKechnie, 19, Belville-street. GRIMSBY.—Tonnage—Y.RB.A. W. Barrett, Fish Dock. GUERNSEY.—Club forming. Julius A. Carey. Station—Alexandra Dock. Particulars wanted. HARTLEPOOL, W.–Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post, Lw.L J. R. Thompson, 32, Thomas-street. HULL.—Kingston—Length taken on I.w.1.; also 10-ton class Y.B.A! Station—Club Lake, Inglemire Lane, Beverley Road. H. F. Reynolds, F.C. Wood, West-parade, Spring-bank, Albert—Tounage—Y. R.A §. L. Tucker, Belgrave Terrace, Rosamond St. JARROW-ON-TYNE —Tonnage—¥.R A Station O, Ullstrom, 65, Croft Terrace. Station—Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. W,. O. Hastings, 8, North-ter., Thurloe-square, Brompton, 8.W. Victoria—Leneth, taken overall and on I.w.1. Station—Victoria Park. W. 8. Melville, 16, Frederic-place, Bow, E, Serpentine—Tonnage—Y.R.A. Station—-The Serpen+« tine, Hyde Park. H. Lear, 18, North-street, Westminster, 8. W. Clapham—Tonnage—Y.B.A. Station.—Long Pond, Ciapham Common. H. BR. Girdlestone, 4, Prima Road, Stockwell, 5.W. Prince of Wales. — Station—Victoria Park, Do. London.—Length (lw.1.) multiplied by beam, not to exceed 240, also 10-ton class ¥Y.R.A. Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. G, Harvey, 45, Kensington High St., W. Station.— G. Beazley, 78, High-8t., Ryde, IW. SOUTH SHIELDS.—Tonnage-—Y¥.R.A Station T. T, Anderson, (Address wanted.) SOUTHAMPTON.—Leugth, taken on 1.w.1. Station.— Chas. A. Capper, Beechwood, Hill Lane, 4d. for twenty words, and 1d. for every additional five words or portion thereof. Name and address when published are countedin and charged for, and if a number at this office be given instead, Id. extra for each advertisementis charged. Id, or td. stamps may be sent in payment. Advertisements must be written on one side of the paper only. REPLIES.—In replying to numbered advertisements, the answer must be sentin a blank envelope, sealed, with the number of advertisement written on the corner, also a Id. stamp (xot affixed), these to be enclosed in another . envelope directed to ‘‘The Editor, ‘Afodel- Yachtsman,’ 161 & 162, High-Street, Hull,” who will direct and forward the envelope containing the reply to the advertiser. Please observe that the stamp must of be affixed to the envelope containing reply. No post-cards forwarded, For Sale.—A £0-ton Model Cutter Yacht, with brass fittings; striped cloth canvas; yellow pine and mahogany wood. all bright. Winner of four races on Boston Waters. Price £5-00. Also, a fast Model Cutter Yacht 5 ft. overall, 17in, beam. Carries 3 stones ballast. Price £3-0-0. Very cheap. Reason for disposal, too heavy for owner to take about from port to port. Walter Keightley & Co., Bath Gardens, Boston, Linconshire, a Sronze —Bronzes for Model Yaehts’ bottoms, easily applied—form a good smooth hard == —— © LONDON.—M. Y.Sailing Association—Length taken on I.w.1. Measurement and See.’s Name wanted. Alexandra. Ou Capt. Haldane—Wolverton House, Lennox Read, Southsea. RYDE, (1.W.)—Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post, on deck. RULES. BROUGHTY FERRY.—Leneth taken on Lw.l. up to 3ft., then tonnage—Y.R.A, Station—Claypots Castle Pond, CARN ARVON Length, Station— Print Works Reservoir, Levenshulme. Chris. G. B. Corbett, 9, Albert Square. MARYPORT, Cumberland.—Tonnage—-¥.R.A. Station J. W. Hudson, 20, North-street. PORT GLASGOW .—Tonnage—” 94” Rule. Station.—Lower Dougliehill Pond. W. Miller, 2, Laird Street. PORTSMOUTH.—Tonnage—Y.R.A. and length (l.w.1.) Station.—Craneswater, Southsea. The charge for inserting advertisements in this column is Station.—River Witham. W. Keightley, Bath Gardens. COWES,I, W., MEDINA. —Length. MANCHESTER. —Length, taken on L.wil.; also 10-ton class, Y.R.A, Gechanuge & Sale Colarnim,. Ulster.—Measurement wanted, J. Bell, 58, Pilot Street. Round Pond, Ken- LIVERPOOL.—Tonnage—Y.R.A., with limited depth and minimum fr eeboard, Station—Sefton Park Lake by E. Marlborough & Co., cnOid Bailey. M.Y.C. 175 Kensington—Length, taken on l.w.l. Station.—Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. G. M. Webb, 61, Lambeth Palace-rd., Albert Embankment, §.E, Station— surface—and add to the appearance, Post-free, in 10a, Packets: GoLp, Va. 7, Od; Ne. 2,10d. Coprer, ts. 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STRIPED 99 A journal containing sketches of sport in Ameri¢a—angling for salmon in Canada, trout in the Alleghanies, black bass in the Middle States, and tarpo nin the South; accounts of shootingelk, buffalo, deer, antelope, big-horn, bear, and other big game; wild turkey, grouse, quail and “prairie chickens.” Its pages are full of interest for all who enjoy well-written papers on travel and sport; and the descriptions of sport- ing localities and newly- opened countries are of special value to those contemplating a visit ta America for pleasure or for a permanent home. The “ Forest and Stream ” also gives much attention to practical Natural History, Yachting and Canoeing. TERMS: £1 per annum, For sale by Davies & Co.. 1. Finch Lane, Cornhill, London, who will also furnish free catalogue of owr books on out-door sports, AND STREAM FUPLISHING 39. Park-row. New York, U.S CO. AIL TONS,” price 2s. 6d.; shows how futile timing is by this system. Also ‘‘ Choice Winning Propor- tions for Racing Yachts,” price 5s. ; shows all timing and measurements false. Further, ‘* Cubical Yacht Measurement, ” price 3s. 6d.—London: WYMAN, Great Queen-St. SAIL ESTIMATES GIVEN. CLOTH: … Stripes 34” apart…… 634d. # yard…) Ge and ow SF gE TAYLOR comes Sed. 4, Both 36″ wide. BROTHERS, “MODEM DOCKYARD,” Banner “FOREST AND STREAM,” FOREST Racing Silk Flags, 6d. to ts. Gnsigus, Jacks & Flags of all Mations for sale or hire. Co., Address to 162, High Street, HULL. €€@ descriptive and profusely jllustrated Handbooks ( with price lists) of “*Model Engineering” 6 stamps; ‘Model Shipping” 4 stamps. ej Tonnage or Length, FROM REPAIRS executed by Skilled Workmen on the Premises. 20, Strand and Llag Wlakhers, Street, LIVERPOOL. ap. Grasoam, Printer, is prepared to ” > execute orders for Brinting, Withography, &c., in the best style, and at moderate prices. CLUB RULES. CERTIFICATES. SAILING PROGRAMMES, LETTER HEADINGS. ENVELOPES. NOTICES. POSTERS. WINDOW BILLS. CIRCULARE. &e. &e. ESTIMATES GIVEN. 161 & 162, HIGH STREET, HULL. SPECIAL. Books of Rules printed and bound in the best styles SEE Serpentine, London, Kingston, Manchester, Albert and Liverpool Rule Books.