The Model Yachtsman and Canoeist: Volume 5, Issue 2 – February 1888

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THE ENLARGED SERIES. ‘odel- Wachisman AND CANOHIST. FROM AN INSTANTANEOUS PHOTO. BY W. U. KIRK. WEST COWES, I.W. A Monthly Journal of Model Yacht Construction, Fitting and Sailing; Canoeing News; Doings of the Clubs; Yachting Items; Correspondence; Sale and Exchange; &ec. Vol. V.—No. 2. c. FEBRUARY, C be 1888. 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Address, Alpha, this office. 22 THE (oitorial MODEL-YACHTSMAN UWotes, We could scarcely expect to begin the new year with the announcement of a new club, but had it not been that the extra business amongst publications of all classes and the Xmas holidays compelled us to go to press earlier than usual, we should have been in a position to place before our readers the good news that a club was formed at Goole. It is a pleasure to make this announcement now, on account of a strong personal interest in the efforts of Mr Geo. Duke, an old model yachting friend, who assisted the writer in manceuvring his vessels at the first great model regatta held in Hull. With the two vessels, entered by the writer on that occasion, in different classes, one succeeded in gaining a valuable prize, but how matters would have stood if Mr. Duke had not been there may not be predicted, as his services were, on account of the immense size of the sheet of water, of an invaluable kind. So all success to the Goole Model Yacht Club and Mr. Duke, and we hope now that clubs exist in all the Humber Ports, that some inter-club sport will result, and that the men of Hull, Grimsby and Goole will have an annual meet. ~——-(}— On this latter point it is suggested that the East Coast clubs, Scarbro’, Hull, Grimsby, Goole and Boston, subscribe to a challenge cup of moderate cost, and have an annual competition amongst the 10-tonners. No doubt a pleasant meeting would be the result, and we hope to hear of this scheme being carried out. —o-—- Our thanks are tendered to Mr. W. J. Bailey, the newly elected Hon. Sec. of the Clapham club, for a friendly letter, and our congratulations on his election to a club which we feel sure will not suffer in prosperity from lack of effort on his part to make its past success the step to further progress. -—O— Our paragraph in November about Torquay was partly wrong. The club at Torquay is formed, and is titled the Torquay Club (not Torbay) and it will be seen from a letter received and published in Club Doings that in spite of the discouragement of a bitter season, some matches have already been held, and that the club ig likely to take up an important position. —0-— A correspondent says:—‘I was quite taken by surprise by the results of the private matches on the Serpentine between schooner Mosqutto and Phantom and Wild Rose cutters. Six inches and a foot superior in length, in strong AND CANOEIST. and light winds, it is very seldom a schooner can be got to hold her own with a cutter on even terms. She must have been a very superior model, and the owner may well be proud of her. J hope we shall hear something more about these matches.” a Oh WE are informed that a new club is forming to take advantage of the New Pond in the Kast Park, Hull, and with the right men to the fore, the venture should prove an unqualified success, as the district is the very home of the shipwright men, who like above all things to make their own model and sail it well. Three clubs for Hull is perhaps two more than is best for the reputation of the town, if it has any intention to aim at perfection in the modelling art, but as they have sprung up in widely separated districts they will undoubtedly give opportunity for more sport. The most unfortunate feature of this separation, however, is that the leaders of new movements generally have a great desire to be different to anybody else, and consequently they often strike out into new classes, with new styles, which tends to prevent these sections; once united, from coming together again as they should do. We hope this*will not be the case with the men of East Hull, they should be able to draw some talent to their ranks from Harle’s Co., and other shipyards of the district, and if a strong point is made of classes which may compete on fair and equitable terms with the older clubs, some good matches with these institutions should result. No doubt we shall have some more particulars for our next issue. ——Q— Mr. Lear’s resignation, published in another column, of the position of Hon. Secretary of the Serpentine club, will have as great an effect on model yachting generally as it had on those of All men who have taken a his own club. prominent part in inter-club courtesies and matches, and most men who read our pages, will have some sort of acquaintance with himself or hisname. Always in the front on behalf of model yachting generally, and his ciub in particular, he will be a missed man. Through hima the Serpentine held a foremost place in the records of model yachting, and if that club can fill the gap left by Mr. Lear, with as much ability and good nature, they are fortunate indeed. We beg to support the vote of thanks passed by the Serpentine club to Mr. Lear, on behalf of model yachtsmen generally, and are absolutely sure that there are no dissentients. —o— Ix March next the Guernsey club intend to hold an Exhibition of Models, Drawings, &c. THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN ‘ An Exhibition was held last month at Dundee, of Marine Objects, Models, &c., &c., towards the attractiveness of which the model yachtsmen of the Broughty Ferry and Dundee clubs greatly contributed. The local press specially mentions some of the exhibits, and amongst these favorably spoken of are 10-tonners and models of other sizes by Mr. Thos. Berry, Mr. D. Mackay, Mr. Geo. Retchie, and Mr. J, H. Cumming, of the Broughty Ferry Club; Mr. P. Blair, Mr. J. Farquharson, Mr. H. Patrick, Mr. W. Duncan, Mr. J. Anderson, Mr. W. Mains, Mr. J. Patrick, Mr. D. Stenhouse, Mr. P. Blair, Jnr., Mr. Jas. Ronney, of Dundee, &c. The exhibition has brought to light some clever work, and has proved of great interest and been very successful. We congratulate Dundee and Broughty Ferry on their enterprise, and hope to hear of more of these displays of skill throughout the country. —JO— Tue rules and regulations of the Guernsey M.Y.C. are to hand, which set forth the object of the association, this being “‘to provide healthy out-door recreation; to develope the constructive ability of its members ; and to spread the knowledge of yachting and maritime affairs.” These important and interesting items of the programine we feel sure will be duly compassed during the life of the club, and pufsued in a spirit of fairness and good feeling for the benefit ofall. The Officers are: Commodore, Colonel De Vie Tupper; Vice-Com., Mr. 8. Barbet ; Hon. See., Mr. Julius A. Carey ; Assistant Hon. Sec., Mr. F. B. Guerin; Treasurer, Mr. J. C. Torrode; Captain, Mr. J. H. Duquemin ; Measurer, Mr. R. Hartwell; and Committee, Messrs. R. Bainbrigge, J. Le M. Mougourd, Capt. E. J. Collings, Commander Le Cocq, B.N., J. Cressard, E. Gaved, General Gordon, Capt. Gostling, R. Hartwell, Dr, Hinton, W. J. Jones, C. A. Renouf, Staff-Surgeon Ryan, T. Taudevin, and BK. Ward. The regulations which govern the club as a body seem well adapted for the purpose, and free from vexatious legislation, that is often the source of disputes, and the sailing regulations are clear and concise, at the same time providing laws to cover all emergencies that can be anticipated before-hand. The measurement adopted is the ‘1730’ rule, and the classes consist of two, five, seven, ten, fifteen, twenty, and thirty tons: surely enough to satisfy the most ardent model sailer, and perhaps a little to spare. The club flag is the Guernsey Arms mounted on Navy Blue, and we hope to see it wave in other contests besides those on the Guernsey waters. —O0 — We have been desired acknowledgment on behalf to make public of the Guernsey AND CANOEIST. 23 M.Y.C. to Mr. J. Corbett, of Manchester, for his useful system of handicapping by time allowance per ton, and to ask him if opportunity per- mits, to elucidate the subject in fuller details for the general benefit, as the system when tried by the Guernsey club gave complete satisfaction. YACHTING IN AMERICA. From ferest & Stream, On December 22nd, this journal published the lmes and on December 29th the interior plan of the well-known cruising cutter Pilgrim, 21ft. 3in, x 7ft. Qin. This handy little craft is a keel boat, and has proved herself seaworthy and comfortable on her cruises on the New Mngland coast, &. Tur America Curp.—No more challenges from Scotland. One of the gentlemen chiefly interested in Z/zst/e writes as follows:—“I have received what is called the deed of gift, but what should properly be named the deed of retention, and feel sure that none of the yachting men in Scotland will have another try for it until the conditions are very much modified. Surely you Americans are good enough now to fight us fairly, at least. I know that we are not good enough to fight you with one hand tied behind our backs and giving you ten months’ notice of where we are going to hit you.” Dec. 22nd.—With this week the ten months’ limit is practically ended, and as no challenge has yet been received there is little prospect of a race next year. A report has been circulated that Gen. Paine will take Volunteer across to England to race for the Cape May and Brenton Reef Cups, now held by Jrex and Genesta, but while such a trip is not unlikely, it has yet not been decided on. A CORRESPONDENT writing on the change in models adopted by American designers, says :— “ Puritan, Advaft 8ft., Afavflower 9t., Volunteer 10ft., Barden (schooner) 11ft. Only 18in. more to go before reaching the draft of the regular cutter. Mr. Burgess is getting there at top speed. By the time our slow British cousins have wrestled successfully with the centreboard, they will suddenly wake up to find America, the land of keels and cutters. The centre-board has already shrunk below the cabin floor. Now in the race for low ballast lft. more added to keel will soon see the little remnant of centreboard abandoned direction m which altogether. That is the the weathereock is now pointing, and Yankees won’t take long to work the problem out to its logical end. Meanwhile we are building two keel boats to every centreboard, and the cutter boom is moving along with more vigour than ever.” THE 24 MODEL-YACHTSMAN AND Yachting Atenrs. The yachtsmen of the South have decided to follow the recommendation of the Y. R. A. in the small classes, and are having built 24-tonners and 5-tonners, whilst the yachtsmen of the Clyde don’t care about the 24-tonners, which they think too much of the boat size, and are having built 3-tonners and 6-tonners. The Fie/d of Jan. 7th, contains a letter from Dr. G. Bedart, Bordeaux, on the range of stability of the American Yacht JZayflower, which tends to shew that AMayfower is to all intents and purposes an uncapsizable yacht, and also that sheis safer on this point than many well-known English yachts. New SmaLL Crnasses on THE THamEs.—We are informed that the Corinthian Yacht Club has amended the conditions for the new class as follows:—1, Length on water-line not to exceed 21 feet or be less than 18 feet. 2. Sail area to be limited to 500 square feet, in accordance with the Y.R. A. rules. permanent deck of not 38. There shall be less than a two-thirds of the possible deck area. 4. Centre boards allowed. 5. There shall be no time allowance. 6. No further limitations shall be introduced into the class during 1888 and 1889 seasons.— field. The Royal Thames Yacht Club have adopted classes of 16 to 30 rasing and 30 to 60, whereas other clubs will in all probability adopt the classes laid down by the Y. R. A., that is, 10, 20, 40 and 60. Thus another mixture is imported into classification, which if left to the individual fancies of the different clubs, will lead to racing all sorts and sizes, and the obliteration of the interesting feature of purely class racing. Doings of the Chis. Reports for publication must be legibly written, on one side of the paper o#/y, and forwarded to the EDITOR not later than the 20th of each month, to ensure insettion in the following issue. Goole M.Y¥.C.—We have great pleasure in stating that at a meeting held on the 23rd Dec., the Goole Model Yacht Club was formed, and the officers elected being as follows :—Commodore: J. Bennett, Junr.; Vice-Commedore: G, Duke; Treasurer: J. Collier; Secretary: E. H. Atkinson, Marshfield Road, Goole. Committee: W. J. Curtis, J. W. Simpson, J. Trash, W. Binnington, 8. Johnson, A. Headon, G. Lowther, E. Rowe, J Chester. CANOEIST. Serpentine M. Y. C. (London).—It is with feelings of great regret that the members of the club have to make known the resignation of the secretaryship of the club, by Mr. H. Lear. At a general meeting held on November 26th, a very hearty vote of thanks was accorded him for his valuable services to the club, and to the sport generally. Mr. W. E. Burgess, 341, Kennington Road, Lambeth, §.E., takes the office of Secretary, and Mr. Giles Hale, that of Treasurer to the club. [The above particulars were inadvertently omitted in our January number.| Dundee AZ. ¥. C. — In December, a special meeting of this club was held at Lamb’s Hotel. Mr. Wm. Anderson, Commodore, oceupied the chair. A consideration of the working rules was gone into and some alterations suggested. After a discussion, it was agreed to make the alterations, and to adopt the weighing system for measurement, instead of the 94 rule, as at present in use, this method to be tried for one season until the members saw how it would work before getting new rules printed. The Comuinittee also reported that they had got for competition two handsome cups, the donors of which were Mr. W. I. M’Intosh, ship rigger, and Mr. J. Fleming, wood merchant, and that they had the prospect of one eup from each of the following gentlemen, namely, Provost Hunter, ex-Bailie Robertson, Messrs. Brown and Tawse, and Messrs. Bell and Sime, so that they would have a cup for each class of boats to be competed for this coming season, and they expected more interest would be taken in this pastime than had ever been taken in this community before. The two cups in the Club’s possession, are on view in the window of Mr. Hynd, plumber, Victoria Road, The weight adopted by the Club for this season is 12 Ibs. per one ton. [In January’s issue for Mr. Catto, please read Mr. Latto and in the second race mentioned the prize was io/- each . boat, not winner to take both boats.] Gateshead M.Y.C.—The members of this club held their second annual general meeting at the Refreshment House, Saltwell Park, on Thursday, Dee. 22nd. The Secretary having read the report showing the financial position and other matters, it was proposed by the Chairman that the same be adopted which was carried unanimously. A vote of thanks was tendered to Messrs. Arthur Newall, Major Dance, R. Brunstrom, and G. Huntley, for the prizes given by them during the year. The presentation of prizes to the successful members: Mr. James Tindall, Mr. Appleby, Mr. Faaning, Mr. James Huntley, Mr. Soulsby, Mr. Snowdon, Mr. THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN Talbot, Mr. Wilson, Mr, Augur, and Mr. Crimson, was made in a very able manner by Mr. G. Huntley, and from the number of prizetakers it will be seen that their club had nowa lot of fine models, while every year about a dozen yachts were added, these being made during the Winter months by the members, some of whom being master of edge-tools have become skilled in model yacht building. The following gentlemen were unanimously re-elected :—Mr. Arthur Newall, president ; Major Dance, sailing captain; Mr. J. Dobeson, hon. see. ; Mr. J. Crimson was elected commodore ; and Messrs. J. Ward, G. Huntley, 5. Huntley, R. Snowdon, N. Dobeson, and T. Sutherland as Committee. A vote of thanks to the Chairman (Mr. Fanning, who ably filled the office in the unavoidable absence of the President) closed the proceedings after a pleasant evening. Scatboro M. ¥. C—On 20th Jan., the elub held a general meeting which was largely atten- ded, when the final arrangements for the Exhibition were completed. It promises to be a thorough success, and we hope will induce a visit from model-yachtsmen of other towns in the district. The sailing programme of the season was next got into preliminary form, and it is the intention to start with an opening cruise ou Shrove Tuesday, and matches, &., every alternate Saturday until May. Then Wednesday evenings as well will be taken up to the first week in June, and then the weeds. These will prove a serious obstacle, and our intentions are only fixed up to the date when we shall have to confront it. The committee have worked with untiring effort for the club’s welfare, and will have the satisfaction no doubt of a successful club to repay them. Guernsey M. Y.C.—The matches in connection with the above club came off according to programme on Tuesday, Jan. 3rd. The racing was on the whole very good, considering the shifty and bafiling nature of the wind, which great judgement and skill on the part sailing the yachts. The winners of the race, 15 to 17 tons, ‘Pilot’—J. Goésle ‘Nellie -—J. Le M. Bougourd For 7 tons and under, the winners required of those were :— AND CANOEIST. cheering the winning boats. The following is the list of the winners :— I, Boats from 30 to 40 tons (2 entries). *Dithoete oot fF. B. Guerin. From 8 to 14 tons (5 entries). Fe”Sg Raa Wee IS TAT OR F 2. ‘Puritan’ 3. ‘Windermere’ ………….0.00. R. Hartwell. Owing to the number of entries this last match was sailed in heats, the above boats winning. As an instance of the good-will which prevails at the pond among competitors: the ‘Sea Horse,’ 18-tons, G. Roberts, was blown over just before entering the water, breaking her mast; the other competitors, although in the water and ready to start, elected without exception to wait while damages were as far as possible repaired. This, of course, delayed the start for some considerable timé, and admitted a formidable antagonist against which to compete. The ‘Sea Horse’ won her heat, but came in fourth in the final heat.—‘Star” Newspaper. Kingston (full) M. Y. C_—Nothing whatever doing since last report, except a momentary gleam of hope that we should derive some revenue from the skating. It just served long enough for the Commodore to cut a caper or two on the ice, and then vanished again. Financial result—swelling the treasurer’s bag by the overpowering sum of 5s. There is no chance of any sailing at the club’s pond until rainy weather is past and the sun bakes the crust of the earth. Some of our members, however, do not mean to keep within their shells all the winter season, as they are beginning to project visits to the new pond made by the Corporation in the East Park, and several have already been there to try their new boats. It is a nice pond, with concrete edges, and will prove a great boon to Hast-end model sailers. Llandudno M. Y. C, — Qn account of the Secretary’s absence on a voyage abroad since August last, no reports of the races sailed since then have been sent in. The club, however, is in a very flourishing state, and now consists of no less than 50 members and 85 models; a great many more new models are also being constructed and some very close racing is expected were :—~ , ee | ee 1 ‘Onion’ —J. Goésle .o.ccccicceeseeeeeens 2 ‘Rheta’-—M. R. Jones …………c eee 3 The matehes postponed on account of unfavor- able weather, were sailed on the 11th Jan., in the Victoria Pond. Considering the thick fog there was a very fair sprinkling of spectators, who took great interest in the races, loudly this coming season. Racing upon the sea has been the great drawback of the club since its commencement,as every race had to be arranged to take place upon Saturdays, when the tides were full and high, and if (as it did several times) the sea should turn out to be rough, the races had to be postponed. The club, therefore, petitioned the commissioners of the town, asking them to provide us with a suitable place THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN AND CANOEIST. 26 for the sailing of our races, and the result is that they have built us a fine fresh-water pool, 100 yards in length and 45 yards in width, with a depth of 3 feet at the edges; we shall now, therefore, be able to hold races every Saturday, no matter what the state of the weather may be. The last race upon the sea is to be sailed on Saturday, January 21st, the race is to be one for the first-class, and some very good sport is expected. A full account of the race will be duly published. Kingstown (Ireland) M. Y¥. C.—An adjourned committee meeting of this club was held on Saturday, January 14th, when the question concerning the formation of classes for the coming season was considered, and it was decided that three classes for 10, 5, and 3 tan beats, should be introduced. It was also resolved that the course for racing would be of a triangular shape, and the races should be decided by points, 3 to first boat, 2 to second, and 1 to third. After a lengthy discussion on other proposals the meeting terminated. Clapham M. Y. C. ( London, )—This club held their general meeting on the 7th Jany., when the election of Officers took place, Mr. GirdleThe restone, Commodore, being re-elected. port showed that the late year had been a very successful one, and the new year is looked forward to as being equally so. It was resolved to adopt sail-area as a rule for rating instead of the ‘1730,’ Correspouderce. Letters must bear the name and address of the writers, (not necessarily for publication). Anonymous lettersand enquiries will not be acknowledged. All communications to be addressed to THE EDITOR TORQUAY MODEL YACHT CLUB. Tue Eprror, 7he Model-Vachisman. Srr,—As Secretary of the Torquay Model Yacht Club, I have taken the liberty of writing to let you know that we We have had several meetings, are now fairly under way. in fact, we started with a match for I§-tons, 1oand § tonners, time allowance, on Dec. 27th; rather a cold time of the year to make a.start, but we have succeeded, and I believe within a few months we shall be one of the largest clubs in England. . Knowing through Mr. Reed, that you are great at models and model sailing, I will as soon as printed send you a copy of our rules. Yours respectfully, THORNTON SLADE, Hon. Sec., pro. fem. MODELS RUNNING OFF THEIR HELMS. Tue Epvitor, Zhe Model- Vachtsman. DEAR Srr,—On consideration of this subject, I think we shall find that the chief fault generally lies in the original desigining of the lines of the model, anda little careful extra thought spent over the drawings would save a great deal of after trouble and disappointment. In laying out the lines of a ship the first great quality is to get uniformity of motion of the different centres, so that no one force shall interfere with or obstruct the action of the others, or in other words, have the different centres working (as nearly as possible) on the sane axis or vertical line. Now, if we examine the subject carefully, we shall find we have four different centres to deal with, namely :— The centre of gravity of displacement, 3 Bs ef af +> » ,, lateral resistance, 99 gravity of the whole mass. a» effort of sails. In desigining the different water-lines, the first consideration is to determine the centre of displacement, as on this depends more or less the after success of your model. This may be done by Simpson’s rule, as suggested by your correspondent, Mr. Arthur Newall, or a rather readier though rougher way is to treat each water-line as a trapesium, find its centre by triangles in the same way that you find the centre of effort of your sails, and after finding the moments of each water-line from some point (say the bow of the boat) divide the sum of the whole by the displacement of your ship, which will give the exact distance of the centre from that point. On the position of the centre uf displacement depends the equal balance of your model. When you have fixed that point tp your satisfaction (the best position being about *55 of your load water-line from the stem of your boat, which is also admittedly the best point for the midship section) then arrange your centre of lateral resistance in the same vertical line. In floating your model down to her exact load water-line (as designed) your centre of gravity of the whole mass will naturally fall in the same vertical. You will by this means have disposed of three out of four of your centres, so that they shall agree together, all exerting their forces to one end, namely, a well-balanced boat. The placing of the mast is also a very important poin. For all practical purposes, I find 38 to “4 of the load water line from the bows about the most convenient point. In designing your buttock lines, produee them in fairly full curves to give power to your boat ; should they be too full your ship will be slow and heavy, if too fine, your model will simply sink too deep in the water, spoiling your design, and at the same time making your boat more or less crank and unable to carry the amount of sail you anticipated. You have now your centre of effort of sails to consider. From my own experience I find the best position for it is from ‘005 to ‘007 of the length of the load water line aff of the other three centres. My reason for placing the CE. of sails slightly aéaft the other centres is because in finding it you treat your sails as flat planes, which practically they are not, as by slackening the sheets naturally the centre of effort moves forward, so when the sails are at their proper angles the different centres of your model are almost virtually in one relative vertical. I think you will find that a model with these observations carefully attended to will do almost anything {in the way of sailing) you may require, Yours respectfully, W. Henry DRreaper, Southport M. Y. C. Tue Eprror, The Model- Yachisman. Sir,—Having had many models that have run off their helms, some of which I have cured and some abandoned, perhaps it would not be out of place for me to ask for a few inches of your space to give my opinion. As to the calculation of centres of effort and lateral resistance, I know that such calculations are of great use as a basis to start from, bat having had to both lengthen and shorten bowsprits very materially, after I had obtained what I considered perfection in the relative placings of these centres, I am bound to say they are not to be depended on for all kinds of models, We calculate these centres, and fix their positions by plan for an upright boat, but these models that run off have a despairing way of sailing all right when not pressed far from this THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN comparatively easy of accomplishment, but some model yachts are ‘“‘kittle cattle.” We cannot afford to have a large balance of hardheadedness, because that means constantly lufing and losing the weight of the wind, and we are not on board to come te the rescue with weather or lee helm ; indeed, in keen competition we cannot afford to have the drag of a rudder at all, and the sails must do everything. Moreover than this, I have found we cannot afford to dispense with sharp long bows and good lines, as these are absolutely necessary for high speed. Much depends on the keel, and I should think the style shown in your valuable illustration of January, of a good straight length, will prove reliable, and yet not stop. the model too much by surface friction. A too thick keel will sometimes cause a boat (tender in other respects) to pay off, also too small freeboard, and I have cured one bad case by thinning the keel. Of course, I cannot suggest any one cure for countless different cases, but should say try alteration of sail-plan first, and then an alteration of the boat. I have known models that would not stand to the wind when sailing in a light air that would peg to windward right merrily in a good breeze : it is therefore patent from this illustration alone that no arrangement of centres would prove a perfect cure for such a craft, Indeed, it is evident, that the alteration of position accor- ding to angle of heel is such a varying factor, constant calculation can Jay down arule that shall that no suit all the changes. My advice to model-yachtsmen is, however, peg away with experiment until you get your boat into perfect trim, as it is generally the weil trimmed and sailed model that wins. Yours truly, “‘1730.” ANSWERS TO CORRESPONDENTS. I. v. B.—The best of all rigs is the English cutter rig, and lug sails and yawl rigs are only adapted for convenience of handling in actual boats or yachts. The lug sail is preferred for open boats, as in case of squally weather, the sail being’ hoisted with one halyard can be instantly lowered. The yawl rig is, on the other hand, generally adopted for large yachts where the long boom and large mainsail of the cutter would fore, why not go in for the rig that gives the best results? Of cutter sail-plans, we have published a number, which will furnish you with a basis for drawing a sail-plan, the height of the mast being regulated by the power and stability of the yacht. If, however, you incline to try the yawl rig, either with gaff sails or lug sails, you can get a fairly good result by making a model qft. long on L.w.L, 12 inches beam, 24% inches lowest freeboard, § inches depth under water without keel and below that the keel 34 inch deep forward and 4 inches aft. A good idea of the balanced lug sail may be got by reference to drawings of canoe sail plans in September issue of this journal, and of a proper yawl sail plan by the largest of the yachts shown on our front page. It is impossible to give the size of sails required unless the boat was built and we knew the amount of ballast on the keel. Geo. A, MELVILLE, San Francisco.—We have published the lines of a number of model yachts, one of which you will have received in January number. We can send you four or five others on receipt of 2d. each and postage. If there is any model yachting carried on at Frisco we shall be glad of particulars. Geo. M. Wess.—-Thanks for yours to hand, the instructions shall be carried out. Alf. Grassam, Stationer, 57, Porter-St., Hull, Eng, Agency for West’s Photos. of all the ‘Crack’ Yachts. ay YACHT REGISTER. CLUB Y¥-H.A. (1883) Rule of Measurement—Tonnage—lin. to 1ft, Length (l.w.l.) vided by 1730. added to beam, squared, multiplied by beam, @i- 94” Rule of Measurement—Tounage—Length I.w.l.) less breadth multiplied by the breadth, and by the half-breadth, divided by 94. 4 1200” Rule of Measurement—Tonnage—tin. to lft., Lenath {Lw.l.) multiplied by length, and the product by the breadth, divided by 1200. AMERICAN.—Lengeth, taken on J.w.i., Station—Prospect Park, New York. G. Pigott, 92, Douglas St., Brookiyn, U.S. ANGLESEY.-—Tonnage—Y.B.A. Station A. F. Hasiam, Menai Bridge. BELFAST.—Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post, on deck. Station.—Belfast Lough. James Gardner, 6, Old Park. Ulster.— Measurement wanted. Station-—Waterworks, Antrim Road. W. Wilson, 124, Cosgrave-street. BOSTON.—Tonnage—Y.RB.A. Station.—River Witham. W. Keightley, Bath Gardens. BROUGHTY FERRY.—Length taken on l.w.l, up to 3ft., then tonnage—Y.R.A. Station—-Claypots Castle Pond. Geo. Ritchie, 17, Ambrose St., Broughty Ferry, N.B. COWES, 1.W., MEDINA.—Length. Station.— Wm. Silbeck, West Cowes, CARNARVON.—Length. Station—Menai Straits, J. H. Lees, Bronserial, North-road. DUNDEE.—Weight, 12 ibs. to 1 ton. Station.—Stobsmuir Pond. J. Cant, 60, Watson Terrace, Glebe. DUBLIN, “TRINITY’—Tonnage—Y.R.A. Station–Kingston Harbor. W. H.C. Phelps, 6, Trinity College, Dublin. DUMBARTON.—Tonnage—Y.R.A. Station–Meadow Park T. Turnbull, 7, M’Lean-place. GATESHEAD,—Tonnage—Y.BR.A. J. Dobeson, 14, Claremont Place. Station—Gateshead Park. GLASGOW.—Tonnage—* 94°? Rule. Station,— Thomas Caldwell, 109, Sandyford-street. GOOLE—Particulars wanted. EK, H. Atkinson, Marshfield-road, GREENOCK.—Tonnage—“ 94” Rule. Station.— ii. McNair, Junr., 10, Antigua-sireet. GRIMSBY.—Tonnage—Y.B.A, Station—Alexandra Deck. J. H. Bacon, 35, Wellington Terrace, Wellington-street. GUERNSEHY.—Club forming. Particulars wanted. Julius A, Carey. HULL.—_Kingston—Length taken on l.w.l.j also 10-ton class Y.B.A Station—Club Lake, Inglemire Lane, Beverley Road. F. C. Wood, West-parade, Sgring-bank. often prove too much for a cruising crew; neither of these conditions obtain in sailing models, there- CANOEIST. MODEL position, and then turning tail when well heeled by the force of the wind. It seems to me that no absolute rule can be laid down for rectifying this fault. If it could be done by relative placing of centres on a plan, the cure would be AND Albert—Tonnage—Y.R.A. J. H. Hobbs, Hessie Road. HARTLEPOOL, W.—Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post, lw.k J.R. Thompson, 32, Thomas-street. JARROW-ON-TYNE,—Tonnage—Y.B.A, Station # a.E. Long, 135, Albert load, KINGSTOWN (ireland.)\—Tonnage, ¥.R.A. Station—Kingstown Harbor, J. KR. Sykes, 15, Garvill Avenue, Rathgar. : LONDON.—M., Y. Sailing Association—Length taken on L.w.l. Station—Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. J. Poliard, 32, Spring-st., Paddington. Victoria—Length, taken overall and on L.w.1. Station—Victoria Park. W. 8. Melville, 16, Frederic-place, Bow, E. Serpentine—Tonnage–Y.R.A. Station—The Serpen- tine, Hyde Park, W.E. Burgess, 341, Kennington Road, Lambeth, 8.E. Clapham-—Tonnage—Y.R.A. Clapham Common. W. d. Bailey, 94, Lorrimore Road, §.E. Prince of Wales.— Station — Long Pond, Station—Victoria Park. Measurement and See.’s Name wanted. 5; Alexandra Do. Do. London.—Length (1w.l.} multiplied by beam, not to exceed 240, also 10-ton class Y.R.A, Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. G. Harvey, 13, Hlm Park Road. 8. Kensington. Station— George—Length on 1.w.1.; also 10-ton class, Y.R.A. Station— Round Pond, Kensington Gardens. E, Tylee, 29, Oxford Square. Hyde Park. Highgate—Boats handicapped by weight. Station—Highgate Ponds. H. P. Reynoldson, 2 Beaconsfield-ter., Archway-rd., H’gate Corinthian.—Length. Station,-— A. Hugo, 178, Ferndale Road, Brixton, 8.W. Goodrich Road School.—Particulars wanted. C. L. Outridge, Heber Road School, E. Dulwich, THE MODEL-YACHTSMAN AND CANOEIST. zi LIVERPOOL.—Tonnage—¥.8.A,, with limited depth and minimum Station—Sefton Park Lake freeboard. T. H1. Hodd, 88, Belgrave-rd., S$. Michaels, Aigburth, L’pool, 5, Station—Lliandudno Bay. LLANDUDNO.—Length. ~, Melsom, Postmaster. MANCHESTER. Length, taken on 1.wl.; also 10-ton class, Y.R.A. Station—Print Works Reservoir, Levenshulme. BR. W. Gill, 22 Langford-rd., Heaton Chapel, Stockport. Station MARYPORT, Cumberland.—Tonnage—Y.B.A. J. W. Hodgson, 20, North-street. — multiplied by beam. Length MEDWAY.—Chatham. D. Bartlett, Thorald Road, Chatham. MOOR PARK (New South Wales.)—Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post on deck; also overall. W J. M. Donaldson, 22, Myrtle-street, 8. Sydney, N.S. PORT GLASGOW,—Tonnage—” 04” Rule. Station.—Lower Dougliehill Pond. W. Miller, 2, Laird Street. PORTSMOUTH.—Tonnage—Y.R.A. and length (1.w.1.) Station.—Craneswater, Southsea. Capt. Haldane—Wolverton House, Lennox Road, Southsea. RYDE, (1.W.)—-Length, taken from stem-head to stern-post, on deck. Station.—Canoe Lake. G. Beazley, Ryde Dispensary. SCARBOROUGH.—length, taken on L.w.1.; also, 16-ton class, ¥.RA Station——The Mere. R. Cole, 21, Oak-road, Falsgrove, T. T, Anderson, (Address wanted.) SOUTHAMPTON.—Lensgth, taken on 1.w.1, Station Chas. A. Capper, Beechwood, Hill Lane. I never replied to this in the Journal from which I have it was c ipped, so I will reply to it now. three authorities for the distance I gave from Burton Stather. The first was a Police Inspector for the Isle of Axholme, with whom I had a long talk; my second authority was the manager of a shipyard at Burton Stather; and my third was the owner of a fishing smack, on board of which I spent an hour whilst waiting for the tide. I never consulted an ordnance map or anything else. —_—Q-——- Talking of canoe building, it will be seen from a short account given elsewhere, that the firm of Turk has seen two Jubilees, and has made one or —_—O0— Station.— SOUTHPOR” :—Tonnage—Y.l.A. W.W. Nightingale, The Glaciarium, Lord St. TORQUAY.—Particulars wanted. better time. —H UMBER. two good scores in that time. M. J. Spyer, Raincliffe Villa, The Valley. SOUTH SHIELDS.—Tonnage—Y.R.A. Until well round Trent Ness, in the Humber itself, we did not get the full benefit of breeze, or should have ma ‘e ; Thornton Slade (pro. scm.) We shall. be pleased to insert particulars of all Clubs, and invite the Seeretaries to forward the necessary information; also, to notify any change in Names and Addresses. I have just been favoured with a look at a specimen of the B.C.A. note paper and badge. It is about the prettiest thing in nautical matters extant. I understand that the badge will be a facsimile of this beautiful little design produced in metal enamelled, in which case it can be worn above or below any ordinary club badge, or may be fastened to the coat on the left breast with pins. —_—0o– BRITISH CANOE CLUBS. 7 ROYAL €.C.—T. G. F. Winser, Sec., 72, Mark Lane, London MERSHY C.C.—T. H. Bartly, Mate, 17, Sweeting-st., Liverpool. CLYDE 0.C.—H. K. Bromhead, Sec., 245, St. Vincent-st., Glasgow. WHAR C.C.—T. 0. Todd, Sec., Sang-st., Sunderland. FREE ROVERS €.C.—E. 8. Cook, Capt., Curator, Council House, Birmingham. HUMBER YAWL & C.C.—G. F. Holmes, Capt., Hornsea. Hull. TYNE ¢.C.—W. Atkin, Com., 64, Marrian-st., Gateshead. Corrections Solicited. % In permanently placing this List in the MY. &é C., we do so with a view of facilitating communication between Canoemen, and we trust to be fully posted in new Clubs, and in correct details regarding the above List. Mr, Grassam, on receipt of a stamped directed wrapper will post a specimen copy of this Journal wit order form.—Hd. EDITORIAL NOTES AND COMMENTS. Those who are thinking of building new boats for the Spring, if they are wise, will consider at least two things in the perfecting of their designs— plenty of room, and speed. : a Talking of speed, the following has been sent to me which I insert in full :—- THe SPEED OF A SAILING CANOE.—Your correspon- dent “Severn,” writing on this subject in 7he Field of Oct. 8th, is mistaken as to the distance from Burton Stather (of Trent) to Hull. By Ordnance map it is little over nineteen miles—a difference of, say, six miles, from his statement. I have done it frequently in three hours. The last occasion on which I timed the run was on Aug. 25th, 1886. Coming home from a cruise on Witham and Trent with a friend, stores, tent &c., in my Humber canoe yaw] Biuebottle—not by any means a fast one—we left Burton Stather at about high water, 3.25 p.m., (neap tide), arrived off Hull Pier 6.15 p.m., having done the distance nnder three hours, with a fair wind (S. W.), but poor tide. Talking of the B.C.A. I saw the following little startler the other day. “Telegram to Commodore Holding. Grand naval victory; complete sub- mission | ”—CoLLIE WHATTU. Then follows the following :_“When I received your letter this morning I piped all hands to quarters, cleared decks for action, and began cannonading the enemy at once. We soon came to close quarters, and as I fired my last round I had the pleasure of seeing the admiral’s ship hoist down her colours, being immediately followed ly all the others.” —QO— That is all very fine and somewhat large-sounding, but the following paragraph is a little more prosaic for he says—“in other words, T am joining the B.C.A.” -——O— It is to be hoped the mysterious one with the queer name will have a large following. REEFS. 1 am not dead, nor much asleep’; the light of my intellectual illumination of these columns has been hidden, not under a bushel, but under the proscribed limits of the AZ. Y. & C., up to a very recent period ; but the increase of a few columns has drawn forth the suggestion from the Editor that if I had any notes (the idea of such a thing, as if 1 were ever without them, even promissory Feb., 1828 The Model-Yachtsman and Canoeist. RACING AND CRUISING CANOE “IRIS.” Designed and Built by MR. GEO. W. 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